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Old 08-14-2023, 03:28 PM
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In which case INT is completely irrelevant.
You do realize that you can start at 100% mana before you kill multiple mobs, right? You will use that extra mana during the period between killing mobs and meditating.
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Old 08-14-2023, 03:34 PM
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You do realize that you can start at 100% mana before you kill multiple mobs, right? You will use that extra mana during the period between killing mobs and meditating.
If you aren't starting a fight with max mana, any additional mana from INT is irrelevant. So that extra mana from INT is doing nothing to help you survive FD fails or any other situation if you aren't 100% mana. You're getting lost again. You can get through more kills before reaching a certain threshold of mana, but by not meditating to full before something difficult, you're squandering the supposed benefits of INT.

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When you are soloing, you are not always killing a single mob, meditating back to full, and then killing another mob. You can also kill multiple mobs before you meditate. This means you are not going to be a 100% mana all the time.
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Old 08-14-2023, 03:43 PM
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If you aren't starting a fight with max mana, any additional mana from INT is irrelevant. So that extra mana from INT is doing nothing to help you survive FD fails or any other situation if you aren't 100% mana. You're getting lost again.
Let me put this another way. You seem very fond of trying to find specific scenarios in which you can prove INT does nothing.

I can also provide specific scenarios in which a bit of extra DPS provides nothing. People enjoy the semi-AFK killing of single static respawn mobs.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Travis_Two_Tone according to the wiki he has 875 HP, and respawns every 6 minutes, 40 seconds.

If you are doing 30 DP, you will kill him in 29.1 seconds. This means it takes 429.1 seconds per respawn and kill. 3600 / 429.1 = ~8.4 kills per hour.

If you are doing 31 DP, you will kill him in 28.2 seconds. This means it takes 428.2 seconds per respawn and kill. 3600 / 428.2 = ~8.4 kills per hour.

You would need to kill him for 53 hours straight to get an extra kill lol. This means no breaks in between. You lose your progress if you stop. Extra DPS is not always increasing kills per hour. The 1 kill per hour estimate I gave is assuming you are going balls to the wall in terms of your killing process.
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Old 08-14-2023, 03:48 PM
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Let me put this another way. You seem very fond of trying to find specific scenarios in which you can prove INT does nothing.

I can also provide specific scenarios in which a bit of extra DPS provides nothing. People enjoy the semi-AFK killing of single static respawn mobs.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Travis_Two_Tone according to the wiki he has 875 HP, and respawns every 6 minutes, 40 seconds.

If you are doing 30 DP, you will kill him in 29.1 seconds. This means it takes 429.1 seconds per respawn and kill. 3600 / 429.1 = ~8.4 kills per hour.

If you are doing 31 DP, you will kill him in 28.2 seconds. This means it takes 428.2 seconds per respawn and kill. 3600 / 428.2 = ~8.4 kills per hour.

You would need to kill him for 53 hours straight to get an extra kill lol. Extra DPS is not always increasing kills per hour. The 1 kill per hour estimate I gave is assuming you are going balls to the wall in terms of your killing process.
Change the subject all you want, I have no interest in pursuing these flights of "reasoning" with you, I'm just pointing out flagrant contradictions and botched logic in your own successive posts. Note you did nothing to address what I just said, except handwaving it away with accusations... rather than engaging with the logic.

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You seem very fond of trying to find specific scenarios in which you can prove INT does nothing.
That was your response to my post and my logic/knowledge, followed by you engaging in exactly what you falsely accuse me of. Note, what I pointed out is not a "specific scenario", it's a fundamental quality of the game.
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Old 08-14-2023, 03:51 PM
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Change the subject all you want, I have no interest in pursuing these flights of "reasoning" with you, I'm just pointing out flagrant contradictions and botched logic in your own successive posts. Note you did nothing to address what I just said, except handwaving it away with accusations... rather than engaging with the logic.
I am not changing the subject. I am providing an example of extra DPS from 20 STR doing nothing. You were providing examples of where INT was doing nothing, so I am not sure why you think you are the only one able to do it lol. DPS has diminishing returns in many different scenarios, it is also a fundamental quality of the game.

Your logic is flawed, because you are using specific examples of where INT may not do anything to proclaim that INT will always do nothing. My DPS example disproves your flawed logic easily, and stays on topic.

I am using math and logic to support my position, as well as personal experience from actually leveling an SK on P99 from 1-60.

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Old 08-14-2023, 04:32 PM
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Have you let the thread die yet?
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Old 08-14-2023, 04:37 PM
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Have you let the thread die yet?
You do understand that other people are posting things too, right? You yourself just kept the thread alive a little longer lol.

If you were being consistent with your views, you would post the same "opinion" about those posters as well. Troxx loves to post silly gifs after everybody else.

It is curious that you never mention anyone else. Why is that?

Sounds like "rules for thee but not for me".
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Old 08-14-2023, 04:42 PM
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Is that your last word or is there another one coming?
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Old 08-14-2023, 04:44 PM
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Is that your last word or is there another one coming?
Thanks for proving my point. You wouldn't be trolling like this if you were being honest and consistent. You are trying to get the last word here.

You would be calling out other posters too.

Attempting to discredit someone when you cannot prove them wrong is not a valid form of debate.
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