Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are killing a mob in 30 seconds, using 2x Ice Strikes would be better. You are getting 1350 / 30 = 45 DPS for 500 mana. Your "optimal" example is doing (150 + 214 + 214 + 214 + 400)/ 30 = 40 DPS for 630 mana. Not sure how this is saving anything.

2x Ice Strike takes 14 seconds to cast but costs 130 less mana. Bane + Blast takes 10 seconds. Cannibalize 4 only gives you 80 mana, so you are still down 50 mana after the extra cannibalize lol.

Cannibalize is 82 mana, and it's 625 mana and 9.5 second cast time for the other spells. You can Cannibalize 1.5 times in the extra amount of time, which covers the mana difference, and the reason you use Bane is because there's no partial resist like there is for DD's. It does the most damage on average as such.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://youtu.be/QjJZgbTUoLk?t=850 Those giants aren't dying in 30 seconds with a 6 man group lol.

That group is clearly doing far less DPS than a dual Enchanter fully-buffed charm pet group. Yet another trash strawman from you. In the other video you link, the one pet being used isn't dual-wielding.

The HP's of the MOB's are 100% verifiable to begin with. They don't have over 12k HP. Enchanter pet group is factually going to be killing them faster than 30 seconds.

If you go to Kael arena and pull higher level things with more HP, that doesn't help the Shaman anyway, because you are just going have higher resist rates. The Mage with their far better pet and unresistible damage shield is keeping their DPS high.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am pretty sure you are just a low level player

Indeed, that is what you are. The lack of comprehension is staggering.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cannibalize is 82 mana, and it's 625 mana and 9.5 second cast time for the other spells. You can Cannibalize 1.5 times in the extra amount of time, which covers the mana difference, and the reason you use Bane is because there's no partial resist like there is for DD's. It does the most damage on average as such.

That group is clearly doing far less DPS than a dual Enchanter fully-buffed charm pet group. Yet another trash strawman from you. In the other video you link, the one pet being used isn't dual-wielding.

The HP's of the MOB's are 100% verifiable to begin with. They don't have over 12k HP. Enchanter pet group is factually going to be killing them faster than 30 seconds.

If you go to Kael arena and pull higher level things with more HP, that doesn't help the Shaman anyway, because you are just going have higher resist rates. The Mage with their far better pet and unresistible damage shield is keeping their DPS high.

Indeed, that is what you are. The lack of comprehension is staggering.

I just can't let such blatantly false information slide.

1. When you cannibalize 1.5 times, you are losing 225 HP. If you Ice Strike 2x, you save 225 HP by not having to cannibalize at all, and you spend the same mana. This means you save an additional 120 mana or so because you still have that HP to cannibalize later.

2. If you are going to consider partial resists for DDs, you have to apply the penalty to Mages too lol. I notced you kept Mage DPS the same while only penalizing Shamans. If a Shaman loses 5DPS due to partial resists, so does a Mage. The DPS difference remains the same between the two classes. If a Shaman is putting out 60 DPS and a Mage is putting out 100 DPS, partial resists would reduce a Shaman to 55 and a Mage to 95, for example.

3. You are trying really hard to force all encounters to be 30 seconds to try and reduce DoT effectiveness. You have no evidence to suggest every fight is 30 seconds. As usual, any video evidence we show you isn't good enough. You refuse to show any videos yourself to provide evidence of your claims. Platehouse mobs take longer to kill, which means a Shaman can DoT hehe. No Blast of Poison needed.

4. In Kael arena and plate house your group will slow the mobs. So you are losing around 10 DPS due to the 70% slow. Your damage shield is just procing a lot less.

5. Even if we assume your 30 second idea is true, its bad for a Mage. For a group to kill a 12k mob in 30 seconds, you need 400 DPS. The difference in DPS between a Shaman and a Mage is around 30 DPS. That extra 30 DPS is only shaving 2 seconds off of that fight. It isn't worth saving 2 seconds for how much utility you lose vs. a Shaman.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Zuranthium is clearly just a troll, or cannot admit he is wrong.

For the record, he believes 500 mana for more damage is worse than 550 mana (after cannibalize) for less damage because of... fizzles at level 60. I rarely get fizzles even on Torpor.

I am done engaging with him in this thread. He won't admit he is wrong, and he won't do math correctly lol.

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I am done

[PlsNoBan]

I think someone else said it before but the autism really do be breathtaking

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Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think someone else said it before but the autism really do be breathtaking

[PlsNoBan]

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I think someone else said it before but the autism really do be breathtaking

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yes PlsNoBan, your autism is preventing you from understanding basic math, or being able to play a video game for more than an hour.

You have my sympathies. Playing a Mage and pressing a few buttons an hour is more your speed for sure.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think someone else said it before but the autism really do be breathtaking

Many gifs later … I’m now a troll (so is Zura)

Top of page 44 others are starting to see the pathology as well

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