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[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where do draw the line? Is it at gay marriage? Is it after polygamy is accepted? Is it after bestiality is accepted? Is it after it's ok to have sex with your children? Is it after you can be a pedo? After you kill someone and have sex with their bodies being ok?

Hmm I wonder if I'm gonna get slaughtered in here for this one but...

well if what you are doing is manipulating or forcing someone to be taken advantage of then most psychologists agree that is where you legally draw the line.

polygamy is bad because despite what the victims of that manipulation say they are unhappy - like someone who is in an abusive relationship, once free'd from the emotional prison they are in they are able to look at the prison that they were in and either cope with it or not. So its generally considered not ok legally, but who knows what science will figure out in the future, maybe you'll be able to clone your wife and have 8 wife clones and we'll have civil rights debates about the merit of a clones emotions or feelings in 2145.

As far as having sex with a dead body, most psychologists would agree that that's just not healty. And if that is what you're after you should probably find someone to talk to and youll be able to get the help you need. Otherwise they might go around...

oh who the hell am I kiding, yall think im some lunatic raving maniac.. but at least I'm a liberal.

oh also if a gay is taking advantage of someone and forcing them to have sex with them then that's rape so that's why it doesn't apply to them. If your boy is manipulated into fucking some other man and your child is 18 and not gay, then you probably fucked him up pretty good raising him and have only yourself to blame.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once upon a time I was trying to become a police officer. I had made it to the final rounds of interviews when they tried to surreptitiously investigate my facebook profile by adding me as a friend on a fake female account. (In some states police departments are forbidden by law from requiring you to submit your facebook information during hiring process). It was completely obvious because I was applying out of state, and the girl was from that same city.

So I logged onto my fake facebook profile that I used to stalk women and troll people, and sent the police profile a friend request. It accepted, and it only had a few dozen friends and no posts, so I sent it a few pictures of penises.

Too bad I didn't get the job, I'm such a clever investergater

I get asked to set this shit up all the time. Mostly for child pornographer/fucker busts. I generally state my business and show them how to make a fake email and google image search. Then state my lack of time to continue further. It feels a bit entrappy to me. Like, I dont buy snacks when I go shopping. My wife does. But if they are in the house i will eat them. I would never been in a position to gain 19lbs on potato xhips if they were still in the fucking store. How many people would be in a position to fuck a child? It seems like after you get caught fucking a child. You should not have child fucking in your face on facebook.


But fuck child pornographers.

[radditsu]

I know its not LEGAL entrapment. Because that is super narrow. But it violated my sense of ethics.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where do draw the line? Is it at gay marriage? Is it after polygamy is accepted? Is it after bestiality is accepted? Is it after it's ok to have sex with your children? Is it after you can be a pedo? After you kill someone and have sex with their bodies being ok?

You forgot consentual adult incest which comes after polyamory.

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are things that have been morally wrong, since forever, it doesn't matter if you can find cases here and there where someone may of done something. It has been morally wrong as long as history can tell. Now all the sudden its not? So where do you draw the line?

That is an extraordinary claim, can you provide some extraordinary evidence for it? You get bonus points if you can find it from a non-abrahamic source.

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even evolution (assuming if you are gay you don't believe in God even though some of them claim to. God must of just got confused when creating you right?) is against gays, being gay doesn't help the survival of the species to live on, unless they know something we don't and are currently in the process of trying to reproduce with each other.

This has been addressed in the thread (twice) population control mechanism.

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically you are screwed. You can get the ok to fuck one another all you want, still doesn't make it right, or accepted and shouldn't have to be accepted by anyone, especially privately owned companies or religions.

So you are arguing against treating these humans like... humans? You keep throwing around the word "accepting/accepted". Be more specific.

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And actually, RELIGION IS BEING FORCED INTO ACCEPTING IT. Wether it's a religious owned institute (for example, hobby lobby) or not is irrelevant. Religious people are having to turn away from their core values because of examples like the mozzila firefox guy. For example, gay people came out and said "he could of just apologized and gave in rather than standing up for his beliefs and he would still have his job".

So you are anti-free market now?

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So yes, it is being forced upon religious people because there is no longer the freedom from it that we should have,

Freedom from... gay people? Might as well ask for freedom from blacks, you'll sound just as bad. Here let me help you. I'll fix up the rest of your post in the next quote for context.

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sure your church doesn't have to accept blacks, but it is encroached into everyone daily lives now. Can't walk down the street now being proud to be against interracial marriage because of your beliefs without fear of losing a job etc (discrimination towards blacks? lol, look how the tables have turned).

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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm I wonder if I'm gonna get slaughtered again in here for this one but...

FTFY

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well if what you are doing is manipulating or forcing someone to be taken advantage of then most psychologists agree that is where you legally draw the line.

Who's being manipulated? Who's being forced into anything? Do you not understand the concept of consenting adults?

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

polygamy is bad because despite what the victims of that manipulation say they are unhappy - like someone who is in an abusive relationship, once free'd from the emotional prison they are in they are able to look at the prison that they were in and either cope with it or not. So its generally considered not ok legally,

Your own words destroy you. I reiterate. Do you not understand the concept of consenting adults?

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but who knows what science will figure out in the future, maybe you'll be able to clone your wife and have 8 wife clones and we'll have civil rights debates about the merit of a clones emotions or feelings in 2145.

What... you know what, forget this one.

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as having sex with a dead body, most psychologists would agree that that's just not healty. And if that is what you're after you should probably find someone to talk to and youll be able to get the help you need. Otherwise they might go around...

I don't necessarily disagree with this section but that last part. wat.

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh who the hell am I kiding, yall think im some lunatic raving maniac..

Nope, just ignorant.

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but at least I'm a liberal.

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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh also if a gay is taking advantage of someone and forcing them to have sex with them then that's rape so that's why it doesn't apply to them. If your boy is manipulated into fucking some other man and your child is 18 and not gay, then you probably fucked him up pretty good raising him and have only yourself to blame.

What is this I don't even...???

You've also never defined a "militant" homosexual.

[iruinedyourday]

Im gonna try to not go to RnF ever again guys! wish me luck! But hopefully Ill just have to have faith that you said a bunch of positive things instead of the evil ass ignorant shit you do!

Enjoy your foul horrible awful arguments about which one of you are the worst person ever!

[Juryiel]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where do draw the line?

People who ask this always seem to not get it. You don't draw hard lines meant to never be changed. You use the context of a given society to draw lines intended to benefit that society. When that society changes, you redraw the lines as needed. Slippery slope arguments are useless as a result. Also, enjoy these maps of legal status of gay marriage and polygamy around the world. Let me know how slippery that slope looks after that.

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[Eliseus]

race != sexual orientation. The way though you make it sound, goes back to what I POINT OUT TO YOU 10000 times, if you are born that way, THEN I GUESS WE ALSO SHOULDN'T JUDGE PEDOS ETC... Which I find strongly odd that you aren't in agreement with since you are one.

[Gaffin 7.0]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You forgot consentual adult incest which comes after polyamory.

That is an extraordinary claim, can you provide some extraordinary evidence for it? You get bonus points if you can find it from a non-abrahamic source.

This has been addressed in the thread (twice) population control mechanism.

So you are arguing against treating these humans like... humans? You keep throwing around the word "accepting/accepted". Be more specific.

So you are anti-free market now?

Freedom from... gay people? Might as well ask for freedom from blacks, you'll sound just as bad. Here let me help you. I'll fix up the rest of your post in the next quote for context.

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FTFY

Who's being manipulated? Who's being forced into anything? Do you not understand the concept of consenting adults?

Your own words destroy you. I reiterate. Do you not understand the concept of consenting adults?

What... you know what, forget this one.

I don't necessarily disagree with this section but that last part. wat.

Nope, just ignorant.

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What is this I don't even...???

You've also never defined a "militant" homosexual.

didnt read

[Eliseus]

That map isn't accurate, I know for a fact because I played ff14 with a gay man from Australia that is perfectly content with how gays are in Australia. They don't recognize gay marriage, but they recognize stuff like living with another man and crap when it comes to w/e there tax equivalent crap is. He also finds it amusing how many gay people are up in arms in the US.

[Eliseus]

Basically stopped reading your map after seeing it wasn't accurate just seeing that alone.