Current Sky Schedule

[Sarius]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is it our collective responsibility to guess which day they want to do Sky? They know what guild goes up on what day... the onus is on them to ensure they are not stepping on toes. Not for the rest of us to bow down and accommodate them at their whim.

Nobody responded to their post in this thread dedicated to having a sky schedule. The onus is on the community as a whole to make something work, not just them. If they are not given a proper slot, or if something is not worked out, why not just do whatever works for you? It worked for IB

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Sarius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody responded to their post in this thread dedicated to having a sky schedule. The onus is on the community as a whole to make something work, not just them. If they are not given a proper slot, or if something is not worked out, why not just do whatever works for you? It worked for IB

And that starts with them figuring out what day of the week they want to go up there, and directly asking the leadership of the guild that has that slot to work something out with them. Is there any compelling reason why they cannot do that? If so, I'd like to hear it.

[-Catherin-]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

can anyone say when Europa typically starts Sky? We could recommend a Western Hemisphere server-wide effort to clear Sky 2 hours before they can field a raid. Every day. And don't buff/trade/group with any of their members. After all... we can all play the ultimatum game, right? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like this. Was kind of thinking the same thing.

This also doesn't just effect Taken. This act pretty much puts the only rotation this server was ever able to come together on at risk.

Originally Posted by Sarius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody responded to their post in this thread dedicated to having a sky schedule. The onus is on the community as a whole to make something work, not just them. If they are not given a proper slot, or if something is not worked out, why not just do whatever works for you? It worked for IB

While this is unfortunate, you are missing the point. We thought we had decent relations with europa. if they had decided on Thursday it would have been easy to contact any of us and start working out something. When they went in behind our backs we were all pretty much shocked. And discussion was engaged with Europa after the fact at that point too, which was met with apathy. All of this could have easily been avoided. A vague post stating they are taking a day without any other further information doesnt cut it

[Erati]

Who knows how long ago they selected Thursday, just no reason to say "you had time and didnt act this is your fault for not acting" when no one knew what day you were even planning on doing it.

you guys said yourself FE reached out but that wasnt good enough so at that point the ball is in your court to start being diplomatic with all the other leaders of the sky guilds DIRECTLY not in some vague guild discussion post that most people probably dont read.

[Sarius]

I just don't see why nobody reached out to them except for FE. Apparently nobody gives a fuck about their sky day, and this is what had resulted. I hope you all can reach an agreement in the near future to maintain this rotation.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Sarius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't see why nobody reached out to them except for FE. Apparently nobody gives a fuck about their sky day, and this is what had resulted. I hope you all can reach an agreement in the near future to maintain this rotation.

Bregan D'Aerth also offered them to work into Friday, but did not show up at the agreed upon times, threatening Bregan's respawn schedule. So, +1 to the list.

And as someone who was waiting that morning, we were not even informed of the call off.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Uteunayr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bregan D'Aerth also offered them to work into Friday, but did not show up at the agreed upon times, threatening Bregan's respawn schedule. So, +1 to the list.

That's correct.

Originally Posted by HallygukRZ

Hi Chest

As you might have missed my last message here I am again. Let me know if we could work smthg out - next possible option would be FRI Aug 9th...

Cheers
Hally

Originally Posted by arsenalpow

ya, that's work for us as long as you make sure to start early enough that things start repopping between 7-8pm EST... we'll set aside the 9th for the go round

and then they no-showed

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Sarius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the issue is their internal communication/leadership?

The issue is they cannot commit to a single day like the rest of the guilds have in order to make this work. They need the full spectrum of 7 days of opportunity to field a Sky raid force apparently, hence the flakiness/no-shows. That's not how this works when the other guilds are committing to a specific day.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Sarius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't see why nobody reached out to them except for FE. Apparently nobody gives a fuck about their sky day, and this is what had resulted. I hope you all can reach an agreement in the near future to maintain this rotation.

Here's the way they can reach agreement, if that is their intention:

And that starts with them figuring out what day of the week they want to go up there, and directly asking the leadership of the guild that has that slot to work something out with them. Is there any compelling reason why they cannot do that? If so, I'd like to hear it.

[Sarius]

It would have certainty been considerate if they had contacted you to let you know, and it is messed up if your two guilds had a good rapport. Once again, I really hope everybody can work together to accommodate each other now that every guild is capable of doing the higher islands.