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Old 11-05-2020, 12:09 PM
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In regards to the sudden wealth of information you shared about his character, perhaps you'd like to expound on your 2016 vote?

Were you hoping to encourage the Southern District to lay into the country club nemesis? Was that a long play? Or were you charmed?

People do change their minds, for example I voted for Obama the first time because I believed McCain was a warmonger and my vote for President is primarily predicated on who will kill the least soldiers. I am mostly a single-issue voter and my issue is the foreign policy blood-price. That why as a conservative Republican I voted for a liberal Democrat. By the time 2012 rolled around I gave my vote to Romney because I was wrong about Obama's proclivity to kill people to advance his foreign policy so I reverted back to my roots. I figured Romney could not possibly be a bigger killer and his policies more closely matched mine.

But...if I had personal insight into Obama in 2008, if I knew his character from personal experience, and I saw that he was an unprincipled man who cared more about power than about the consequence of his policies, if I saw that he was a bumbling fool who put on collegiate airs and used big words to hide his towering ignorance of realpolitk and that he was willing to spend lives to hide his incompetence, then I would not have voted for him. In other words, if I characterized him as negatively and as strongly from personal experience as you did regarding your experience with Trump, I would have never voted for him and taken my chances on McCain. Lacking insight into their true characters, I picked one or the other on the basis of what I had, which was mostly their manufactured public image.

So what happened in 2016? You might think I'm trying to pick a fight but I'm really curious. Were you just seeing what would happen? Were you thinking the office changes the man...for the better?
I voted for him in 2016 because I thought it would benefit me in many ways monetarily ( because of that, I'm certainly not holier than thou by any means). However, then it did not. Financial deregulation has not gone nearly where he promised it would/where I thought it would. My taxes have gone up by 5 figures due to Trump's tax plan. Just as some examples.

So, when you take away the monetary reasons I voted for him, I'm left with a corrupt, incapable individual who can't even manage to hide his own idiocy to the public. If I was making a lot more money under Trump (which I thought I would be) then I probably would have voted for him again, but if you're going to be a total moron and disaster in most ways you gotta at least make me money if you want me to vote for you lol.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:11 PM
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Trump was the first man i know of that decided to run for president that wasnt dirt poor. He was tired of everyone ripping america off and understands money and our economy and how important american factories are.

Money is a drug, it infects your mind, the more you make the better you think you are then everyone else.

Everyone says they will never be like that, just like everyone who goes to law school says they will help poor people that cant afford to defend themselves, then soon as they get out all they can think about is a partnership at a big firm a sick car, 30k wardrobe and sweet crib.

Its how life works guys
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:12 PM
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Got any videos on Antifa pulling guns on children?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/u...mous-zone.html

https://komonews.com/news/local/murd...illed-teenager

CHOP/CHAZ was one big antifa/blm protest that took over several city blocks in Seattle; ie, the place that's hell bent on being more progressive and woke than the bay area.

I'd love to see Kamala Harris be the prosecutor in Seattle proper. Our current prosecutor is crap.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:15 PM
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Did civil war start yet I just woke up.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:16 PM
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Well there's nothing going on today.

No states will be "called", there will be no advance in the electoral count, it's just Stasis Field Thursday today.

I know this because the real news is coming tomorrow:

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“By the end of this week,” Jason Miller said on a conference call, “it will be clear to the entire nation that President Trump and Vice President Pence will be reelected for another four years.”
Got it? It's going to be clear.

To you, to me, to the entire nation.

I'm wondering what that clarity will be predicated on? I mean he did say "be reelected" not "remain in power" which is the phrase I would have used to inject some gravitas and maybe to foreshadow the type of clarity I am about to receive.

Because if I mouseover the icon on Friday and it says "Breeze" I am going to be disappointed, just like IRL.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:21 PM
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Here is a scary thought, the left is so traumatized by the last 4 years that the people ignore every state security issue they turn on and we rubber band to the deepest state conspiracy that we've ever feared.

Is that what you guys are worried about? Or even more? I should not have watched that Snowden movie.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:25 PM
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This only goes to show that Trump is not part of the establishment. The swamp runs just as deep on the republican side as it does the democrat side.

Trump made a lot of enemies on both sides of the aisle. I would venture to say that the Bush family hates him more than the Clintons.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:25 PM
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I voted for him in 2016 because
Thanks I appreciate that! His impact on my finances was minimal because my primary holding is real estate in Eastern Europe (which has its own set of problems of course, but none that are affected by US monetary policies). I think my taxes went up some, but it wasn't material.


edit: We all have our reasons [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Interesting to find what motivates others.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:28 PM
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I would venture to say that the Bush family hates him more than the Clintons.
One does not simply shush Jeb!
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:40 PM
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This only goes to show that Trump is not part of the establishment. The swamp runs just as deep on the republican side as it does the democrat side.

Trump made a lot of enemies on both sides of the aisle. I would venture to say that the Bush family hates him more than the Clintons.
That tweet crushes me though lol. The idea that the republican party was empowered by trump and then trump will disappear leaving them in control makes me want to suck on a double barrel shotgun.
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