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[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by originalman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

can you?

what for ? to defend ourselves against the hordes that kill and maim in seine saint denis ..? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[originalman]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what for ? to defend ourselves against the hordes that kill and maim in seine saint denis ..? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you'll be saying something similar about cars with manual driving capability in about 15 yrs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to steer myself somewhere a computer could take me? xDD

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

admittedly france is way better off than sweden for free speech but



this doesn't sound like free speech to me. most of that doesn't.

That doesn't hold up to scrutiny because of potential harm done to the public at large. Same reasoning as to why you can't say fire in a crowded theatre, to use the old addage. Slippery slope it if you want to, but that doesn't hold up to scrutiny either.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by originalman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you'll be saying something similar about cars with manual driving capability in about 15 yrs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to steer myself somewhere a computer could take me? xDD

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[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That doesn't hold up to scrutiny because of potential harm done to the public at large. Same reasoning as to why you can't say fire in a crowded theatre, to use the old addage. Slippery slope it if you want to, but that doesn't hold up to scrutiny either.

The limitations to free speech in france about the holocaust denialism is mainly because of historical reasons. The french government of vichy actively participated in the deportation of jews and other "not desirable", famously during the episode of the "rafle du vel'd'hiv".

Coincidentally, it's for the same reason that you don't have racial or religious statistics in france. Vichy did use the records to find the jews an round them up.

[Xaanka]

hmmmmm the plot thickens maybe limiting free speech isn't in the best interest of the citizen and is a slippery slope to fall into if you have any respect for individual liberties (you're european so you don't even really know what that means)

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess you're talking about the "hurr rapes durr" stuff ? sweden considers stuff as rape that'd be considered catcalling in the US, but somehow they "under-report" ?

Poor thing. it must be hard to live your life with that kind of thinking.

in sweden 6 men gang pulling a crippled woman with fatigue and blood pressure issues from her chair and raping her on a toilet repeatedly isn't even investigated as a rape, because a crippled woman with fatigue issues and low blood pressure couldn't leave visible wounds on 6 strong adult men. how are we supposed to believe this "catcalling considered rape" fantasy? can you cite any evidence like i have countless times in this thread?

you're entitled to any opinion you want but it doesn't mean much if you can't prove it.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in sweden 6 men gang pulling a crippled woman with fatigue and blood pressure issues from her chair and raping her on a toilet repeatedly isn't even investigated as a rape, because a crippled woman with fatigue issues and low blood pressure couldn't leave visible wounds on 6 strong adult men. how are we supposed to believe this "catcalling considered rape" fantasy? can you cite any evidence like i have countless times in this thread?

you're entitled to any opinion you want but it doesn't mean much if you can't prove it.

julian assange

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

julian assange

that was a political move not an actual rape case, also charges dropped. if anything proves my point harder that the same country covering up migrant rapes was the one using fake rape cases to harass assange.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that was a political move not an actual rape case, also charges dropped. if anything proves my point harder that the same country covering up migrant rapes was the one using fake rape cases to harass assange.

no the condom fell off cuz his weiner too small and that's rape in sweden. he was charged with rape.

contrived for revenge or not, that's what the legal charge was.

you were saying swedish rape laws aren't overly broad, this example directly refutes that notion.