Seal Team removes ourselves from all player agreements

[Cawin]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

STOP THE STEAL! **whaa-whaa***

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This UN thing isn't very optional from what I've seen.

Good.

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's an effort to force the top guilds into having to deal with you instead of the staff having to and work through your incessant complaining and demands.

It's an effort to force the top guild to into having to deal with the fact that this is not their playground, that no one gave them the right to dictate the high barrier of entry to being able to compete, and that there is an entire community of raiders/players that their actions/behavior impacts.

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You wanna be the top guild on p99?

No, why the fuck would I want to tie myself to 24/7 batphones as a 40-something year-old grown-ass adult over pixels? But I play here too, and no one designated the top guild minority as "deciders of who is worthy of getting pixels" of the majority. There is absolutely zero reason why they can't work out something like bag limits or FTE lockouts or anything other than "well, that doesn't deny others pixels as effectively." It's all about our tears, to be honest.

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're going to deal with the degenerates, appease them with constant rule changing until some pixels shake loose. None of the idiots I'm talking about will admit it, but for you the casual reader, consider it and realize the truth.

For the casual reader: the real degenerates that force everyone else into having to beat their zerg force and stand by 24/7 batphones --- these try-hards have had their way on Blue for nearly most of 10 years. And they want to dominate all the pixels again on Green. And probably on Yellow in 2023. And Mauve in 2027. And it keeps going on and on and on. When is it enough for them? When do you say "Okay, you know what, this isn't even competition anymore... this is like shooting fish in a barrel." instead of "Holy shit, grats us, we're so awesome. AGAIN. Ready to do it all over again on the next server because we get erect by denying others pixels." Who are the degenerates again? Nirgon is projecting hard because he knows his elitist position is ridiculous.

We're just trying to enjoy EQ, man. Not make it into a full-time job. But it seems a minority group of players who have decided for themselves that these servers are THEIR playground and have also decided they will NEVER EVER let people who raid casually enjoy themselves. In fact, probably over their cold dead bodies.

Why?

[getsome]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why?

Because that is the rule sets established by rogean and nilbog. The server admins could change how guilds compete in an instant.

Braknar tried to shake things up and was dismissed.

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because that is the rule sets established by rogean and nilbog. The server admins could change how guilds compete in an instant.

Braknar tried to shake things up and was dismissed.

Didn't Braknar want 100% rotations?

That aside, I do agree the ruleset could be altered. As it is, one guild ends up taking everything.

[Heywood]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why?

I was under the impression that p99 was supposed to be "classic"

What's classic about having guilds log into some 3rd party program so they can hold hands and talk about which raids mobs they can kill.

Seems like my boy Nirgon is right. Y'all filthy casuals want a piece of the pie without putting in the work. EQ has always been about putting in a ton of work to get the best pixels. If you didn't know that, or want something different, WoW is that way.

This is why blue/green are ultimately flawed and plain boring. Instead of crying to GMs about not getting trak, y'all should duke it out. It's what Brad would have wanted.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Heywood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ has always been about putting in a ton of work to get the best pixels. If you didn't know that, or want something different, WoW is that way.

EQ has always been about a rewarding and rich social experience. The middle-management spreadsheet meta enjoyed by the top autists is merely a thread in the social fabric of the server. As much as they would like to think so, it's only a small portion of what the server life is all about. The server does not revolve around Trak kills or VP keys, and I'm am sure that data can show the vast majority of players never reach the raid stage nor do they want to. For every 20 of them, one goes on to sit there and count his points and think himself more important than the players they now denigrate.

These few think themselves the core of EQ experience because of the intensity of their feelings, but children always think Christmas is about them.

[Cawin]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ has always been about a rewarding and rich social experience.

These few think themselves the core of EQ experience because of the intensity of their feelings, but children always think Christmas is about them.

Mic drop. Can close this thread now.

[Wyclef31]

Originally Posted by Heywood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was under the impression that p99 was supposed to be "classic"

What's classic about having guilds log into some 3rd party program so they can hold hands and talk about which raids mobs they can kill.

Seems like my boy Nirgon is right. Y'all filthy casuals want a piece of the pie without putting in the work. EQ has always been about putting in a ton of work to get the best pixels. If you didn't know that, or want something different, WoW is that way.

This is why blue/green are ultimately flawed and plain boring. Instead of crying to GMs about not getting trak, y'all should duke it out. It's what Brad would have wanted.

There's nothing "classic" about this, it's an emulation of classic. So give up on that idea. None of us had the info and resources we have now, back then.

Funny how people, no matter the context, will pick and choose what strengthens "their" side while ignoring all the relative information. If you wanna play classic you better have 56k, no discord and throw your cell phone away while you're at it. Where does one draw the next imaginary line? This logical fallacy is for the sheep.

[Cecel__Soulhealer]

Originally Posted by Wyclef31 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's nothing "classic" about this, it's an emulation of classic. So give up on that idea. None of us had the info and resources we have now, back then.

Funny how people, no matter the context, will pick and choose what strengthens "their" side while ignoring all the relative information. If you wanna play classic you better have 56k, no discord and throw your cell phone away while you're at it. Where does one draw the next imaginary line? This logical fallacy is for the sheep.

I mentioned GINA to a person one time telling them it would help them realize their FD failed because it was in a dirty puller and caused aggro on my cleric. Said it isn’t classic and they play for that. Two weeks later they were yammering about how their should be instances for raid targets or enforced rotations. Every time I hear ‘but muh classic’ they always cherry pick.

Classic on my server was you’d get trained if they didn’t like you or they wanted to steal your camp. It wasn’t constant or often, but it would happen. Or two groups DPS racing trying to steal the mobs. Good times.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by Heywood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems like my boy Nirgon is right. Y'all filthy casuals want a piece of the pie without putting in the work. EQ has always been about putting in a ton of work to get the best pixels. If you didn't know that, or want something different, WoW is that way.

Bullshit. Since EQ has no gear-check barriers of entry (bar easy to get resists and cheap utility items) and no PvP your gear is literally just vanity pixels outside of a few solo/small group feats which few ever do anyway.

EQ raiding is staring blankly at a screen spamming tracking/pettracking or duckporting for several hours on end in the hopes of that something will pop. Then everyone logs on and rushes the boss in <20 secs. Items are dropped, the people who have the most unhealthy amount of hours staring at the screen gets the good drops. Rince and repeat.

For all the shit WoW gets it is far more demanding in skill and the top end gear actually requires something more than unemployment status and autism.

If you however like a social game with a big world full of dangers, EQ gives you that.