Upcoming change to class epics

[ergo]

Damn I forgot another problem you seem to ignoring or have overlooked which is more my situation. Instead of at least grouping and helping 5 other people get exp, and learning the class (at least some what), now I will just pay to get PLed to 46 so I can use the epics anyway.

So the real losers are people that could benefit for the extra dps of a twinked rogue and the winners are the bards and druid offering PL services.

People are still going to suck at rogue because now they have zero incentive to group and just pay a little extra to have their chars delivered to them at 46 with epic in hand.

Tada nothing fixed. This is the rogue situation you and the devs are creating. Glad it addresses zero of your concerns! Good riddance! Keep up the good work devs.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn I forgot another problem you seem to ignoring or have overlooked which is more my situation. Instead of at least grouping and helping 5 other people get exp, and learning the class (at least some what), now I will just pay to get PLed to 46 so I can use the epics anyway.

So the real losers are people that could benefit for the extra dps of a twinked rogue and the winners are the bards and druid offering PL services.

People are still going to suck at rogue because now they have zero incentive to group and just pay a little extra to have their chars delivered to them at 46 with epic in hand.

Tada nothing fixed. This is the rogue situation you and the devs are creating. Glad it addresses zero of your concerns! Good riddance! Keep up the good work devs.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lazy players who'd AFK all the time while acting like you were lucky to have them.

Wow. You're a perfect representation of this phenomenon. Haha.

[ergo]

No. It's ok to nerf epics MQ because it was a game breaking feature that needed to be dealt with on our server. 3 out of those 4 epics you mention don't allow their effects to be used until level 50, so maybe that's an indication of what level those items were meant for?

Indeed, so lets nerf all items that have a proc that does not work until X level for the exact same reason no? You don't get to wield any weapon with a proc unless you are at the level the works.

Do you see the problem with your logic now? The fact that it is a quest is irrelevant. The fact that it can be MQ'd is irrelevant. If the items are not supposed to be acquired because the effects do not work, then all procing weapons should be treated the same way.

I am for this - as it is would be equal - at least.

You're not going to see every baby rogue in the game using a Salindrite, HoH, or Exquisite Velium Spear. Ever.

I guess you underestimate the power of bored people on p99. Also if people could farm those 3 per day, I assure you, they would be just as common.

[Cecily]

But they can't and they won't cost 30k. Soooo... yeah.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow. You're a perfect representation of this phenomenon. Haha.

That is fine if you feel that way. But that doesnt address your concerns nor solve the problem you say I am part of. This change will do nothing. It will however make it worse and that was my point.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But they can't and they won't cost 30k. Soooo... yeah.

So the price is the problem? I don't get your complaint here. If they were 3x per day, they would be 30k.

[Cecily]

But they aren't and they won't be. You do bring up a good point about power leveling, which is another festering, cancerous sore on P99.
I can not wait until Chardok RMT Inc. gets shut down.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But they aren't and they won't be. You do bring up a good point about power leveling, which is another festering, cancerous sore on P99.
I can not wait until Chardok RMT Inc. gets shut down.

Chardok is not the only AE location, just the most deserted. Also PLing is wonderfully classic. I did so on 5 accounts and one of my more favorite pastimes.

AE grinding is very much classic as well. As for the RMT, meh, cant fix that. As long as there is people with money willing to spend it and people willing to sell pixils, it will happen. If blizzard and other companies cant fix it, you think the part time devs of p99 stand a chance of eliminating it?

The river denial is long, it wide, and it deep.

[JDFriend99]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Indeed, so lets nerf all items that have a proc that does not work until X level for the exact same reason no? You don't get to wield any weapon with a proc unless you are at the level the works.

Do you see the problem with your logic now? The fact that it is a quest is irrelevant. The fact that it can be MQ'd is irrelevant. If the items are not supposed to be acquired because the effects do not work, then all procing weapons should be treated the same way.

I am for this - as it is would be equal - at least.



I guess you underestimate the power of bored people on p99. Also if people could farm those 3 per day, I assure you, they would be just as common.

This isn't one of the brightest retorts ive ever set eyes upon.

Making every epic a 46+ questline to equip the item rewarded is damn good. You cannot go and compare a drop item bought in EC with an item quested that is designed to be best in slot. Please rethinj these arguments...

[maestrom]

You can argue that some non-planar raid drops are on par with epics and are not much more effort to obtain than an epic.

War bow comes to mind.