Congratulations Lord Bob

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by man0warr

No one told Lord Bob to GTFO

Do I really need to go back through the countless posts in multiple threads telling Lord Bob to metaphorically gtfo, or can you do this yourself? Read my posts again. I never said anything about 'gtfo of sky'.

[Tanthallas]

I think what he is trying to say is that if you collectively want something to be done, take steps to see that it is done. Actions speak louder than words - if five of you want rotations and one doesnt, why dont you pool your collective power to ensure that you have the upper hand? The raid agreements were not meant to provide you with what you want when you want it, but instead with more opportunities that you didnt have before by segregating you from FE, IB, and TMO.

I dont think analogies to capitalism are fitting, however. This is just standard balance of power politics that exist within any type of social formation.

[Erati]

I approached Hyjal to join class R guild talks as well fully knowing that they probably wouldnt change their "no rotation stance"

i simply wanted him to join, listen to the leaders amd their ideas possibly to find something Hyjals guild would b interested in being a part of

while he didnt say no, he also did not do anything with the BDA vent info i gave him

he also said he had no mic and while i was discouraged he couldnt communicate verbally (very important with 15 loud mouth guild leaders in channel) i gave him the info and told him to come listen n do what he could

could he have sent another rep with a mic and thus b "a part" of those talks- Yes

this is the problem here w Bob, their stance is ignorance. Dont read the forums and just play the victim card of uninformed. Stick their head in the sand deep enough b blissfully unaware of things like this very thread.

i wish we could all just "play the game" but it seems here on P99 the game and the forums are one in the same at times.

[Tanthallas]

Are you seriously trying to argue that the ability to dish out consequences is non-existant here? All of the class R guilds combined who agree on wanting to rotate can easily...EASILY...beat Lord Bob into submission if they actually did something other than post on the forums and change their forum avatars to Jax Teller.

[Man0warr]

This isn't about Class R - but they have already beaten Lord Bob to anything they have attempted during Class R or FFA spawns.

This is a Sky dispute, which the entire server has agreed to.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't about Class R - but they have already beaten Lord Bob to anything they have attempted during Class R or FFA spawns.

This is a Sky dispute, which the entire server has agreed to.

Correct, which is why I shifted my initial post toward Sky specifically, as the post by Derubael begged for a more general approach to the philosophy and science of political relations between differentiated units.

Sky is a different beast all together, and I partitioned off a section of my post entirely for that. I think that may be what is being missed. I should use bars more often.

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[Heebo]

If I were in Dolj, I'd just join the rotation - learn some encounter mechanics. Then I'd crawfish and drill that ol' devil in the ass.
- Curly Bill Brocius

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Heebo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I were in Dolj, I'd just join the rotation - learn some encounter mechanics. Then I'd crawfish and drill that ol' devil in the ass.
- Curly Bill Brocius

Since I find that it is impossible to edit posts here, I shall toss on yet another, and just say you have a fantastic forum signature. Reminds me of this.

[Heebo]

Originally Posted by Uteunayr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since I find that it is impossible to edit posts here, I shall toss on yet another, and just say you have a fantastic forum signature. Reminds me of this.

^ This guy gets it.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't about Class R - but they have already beaten Lord Bob to anything they have attempted during Class R or FFA spawns.

This is a Sky dispute, which the entire server has agreed to.

this, if you notice Lord Bob is not even a classified guild.....

Bob is welcome to do their thing. As much as Class R guilds dislike it, and wishes they would take part rather than disrupt, its understandable that we can't 'force' them to do anything they don't want to do.

However, doing what they did in Plane of Sky, when we have had nearly every major guild from BOTH tiers agreeing to a rotation for over a calendar YEAR is unacceptable.