OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[Durka]

Originally Posted by Bossman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a rotation two weeks out of the month and involves 0 competition. How would you determine a guilds entry into this system? How long so they have to kill their mob? What happens if they can't in allotted time frame?

Very good questions and all of that will need to be thought out / decided upon by officers if they choose to go this route. I just support the idea.

Some ideas:

• Guilds that have more than 30+ toons that have been active in the past 30 days qualify for the lottery (guilds that are new have to wait 30 days to get into lottery and have 30 active members for 30 days)
  
• Only guilds with 10+ VP keyed active members qualify for lottery in VP (VP separate lottery or maybe just FFA with FTE raid rules. Not sure which would work best)
  
• Guilds get 8 hours to kill their target once it spawns. Once that 8 hours is up, the mob is FFA. Timer can / may be posted on whokilledit website or guild trackers must keep track.

I can put on my capn obvious cap and point out that this server has a HUGE population of what used to be hardcore raiders. Its like taking 6 top guilds from the biggest population servers of live back in 2001 and putting them all on one server. Its a great challenge, but we must find a civil no-loophole way to do this. This is not a hostile post, no need to respond to it with hostility.

[Buriedpast]

Da stalling is retarded beyond retarded.

How about a mechanic that no persons may be added to aggro list after 20 seconds from engage. Use vox banish.

So if you engage a mob without being ready, half your guild gets banished as they log in and join the fight.

[Savok]

Here is a simplistic idea (maybe too simple?) to try to open up the system but still maintain competition. Split all of the mobs in to tiers like this:

Tier 1
Phinny? (It may be a 'raid to a small guild and a solo effort to someone else)
Maestro

Tier 2
Naggy
Vox
Draco

Tier 3
Inny
CT

Tier 4
Gore
Talendar

Tier 5
Fay
Sev

Tier 6
VS
Trak

Tier 7
VP

If you kill even 1 mob from a tier you are excluded from killing a mob on the tier directly below until its following spawn. For example if you kill any dragon in VP you cannot kill VS or Trak until it has spawned and has been killed by another guild. They in turn cannot kill Fay or Sev until the too have been killed by another guild. Meanwhile the guild(s) that killed in VP can have free reign at the spawning Fay and Sev but would then have to leave Inny and CT to another guild.

I may not have the mobs all in the right tiers and maybe missing some but what this should do is open the chance for more guilds to see more higher tiered mobs open for them. If the top 3 guilds each even kill one VP dragon that would open Trak and VS to a mid guild – and this would hopefully trickle down.

[Reguiy]

Originally Posted by Buriedpast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Da stalling is retarded beyond retarded.

How about a mechanic that no persons may be added to aggro list after 20 seconds from engage. Use vox banish.

So if you engage a mob without being ready, half your guild gets banished as they log in and join the fight.

That's actually a really fucking good idea.

+1

[Hodge]

my head hurts.

[dustysr06]

VP would remain FFA and not included in the lottery

any merbs extending into FFA territory would then become FFA as of the 15th of the month if they hadnt spawned again yet (fuck you variance)

I also like the idea that you could trade picks with a guild via whatever agreement the 2 make together- i'll give u this #3 pick for dibs on first CT, u give me ur #5 pick for dibs on 3rd trak spawn and ur sky night for the week, or whatever the case may be~

[dustysr06]

how is logging out a raid force at multiple targets due to having nothing but kunark for 2 years coupled with an open account buying/selling/trading system to have sufficient alts for such camping, then paying people monopoly money to sit there for 16+ hours a day with a group message ready to send out as soon as the mob pops at 4am for your 40 friends to come rushing to the keys to help u while u take 5 minutes to 'pull' the mob and/or sitting clicking air for countless hours competition?

if you want competition how about doing away with mob spawns completely outside of server repops? Or p99 it up with more un-classic experiences and include a server-wide summon of all lvl 46+ toons to the arena with a simulated server repop to spark a little more competition.

I play here because i loved eq, this proposal isnt mine, im not gonna put it all out there- those are just some of the ideas from what i've read of it and it seems to be a fair compromise for the carebears against the hardcores- do you not understand that some people came from rotation servers? Their 'reliving the classic experience' might JUST involve some rotations.

[dustysr06]

In the EQ i remember, the challenge came from actually killing the mobs, and enjoying doing it- not from these petty sub-games that have been created here such as: who can throw the quickest javelin? How low can your ping go? Who's got the most e-pals on speedial?

[Bossman]

What about pulls for outdoor dragons? How would raid members like wizards and third/fourth healers not get banished?

[oddibemcd]

Originally Posted by Bossman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about pulls for outdoor dragons? How would raid members like wizards and third/fourth healers not get banished?

Engage in place? Give chanters something to do? Eliminate the "the bard was bringing Sev to our camp, he just took a wrong turn while 30 more logged on?"

Tal would be the only one where engaging in place would be a pain.