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[Bazia]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the problem is that for whatever reason

Came after guild A had a 50 man pixel farming machine, good luck convincing people that its more fun to spend all day farming Sebilis with 20x the time commitment then just logging in 4 hours a week and getting the best pixels in the game.

I refuse to believe that you can't come to this conclusion on your own.

[Dullah]

If the core of Nihilum can keep a guild running like a well oiled machine with only 4 hours dedicated a week, you guys have a serious problem.

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the core of Nihilum can keep a guild running like a well oiled machine with only 4 hours dedicated a week, you guys have a serious problem.

nihilum is not a guild

more than half their members hate eachother

all nihilum is, a band of pve'ers who are mostly bad at pvp, so they throw 50 toons to control content

shits getting old man, the people want pvp

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you missed my point. the problem is not that its 50 vs 15 in pvp.

the problem is that for whatever reason Azrael keeps losing members/can't keep members/doesn't attract new players, and as a result of THAT problem, can not field competitive numbers for large scale pvp over raid targets.


tldr: your cup is losing water. plug the hole, retain the water.

this hole that you speak of, cannot be plugged

due to population and the amount of low willed folk who would rather drone to pve targets, than to fight for them

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shits getting old man, the people want pvp

if nihilum doesn't want PVP, and the majority of the server is in nihilum... then do the people really want pvp? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[/devilsadvocate]

[Nads]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nihilum is not a guild

more than half their members hate eachother

all nihilum is, a band of pve'ers who are mostly bad at pvp, so they throw 50 toons to control content

shits getting old man, the people want pvp

Nothing's stopping you from gathering a squad of your FF buddies and engaging in some guerrilla tactics while they muster their forces.

[Derubael]

Project 1999 PvP
Status:
Players: UP
150
.:: Server Info ::.


If nilly only logs in to drop raid targets once a week, that means you should have over 100 people to fill the hole with [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Eslade]

This is coming from someone looking in from the outside. A lot of people here get PL'd and handed stuff that they didn't invest much time or effort into. This makes people not build bonds with friends or make enemies in lower levels. So you have people that get to higher levels that have no qualms with backstabbing their guild because F it, they don't really know anybody anyway. So they go to the guild where they are almost guaranteed more pixels for as little effort as possible. I'm probably wrong, but that's what I've seen so far.

[Bazia]

After 1 1/2 years of PLing and gearing people only to have them quit or guild jump for better pixels I really don't blame people for not giving a fuck about new players, can only burn your hand on the stove so many times.

Like I said I'm sure that magical super guild leader will show up and stop people from getting PLs and then guild jumping for pixels, this is all Lite's bad leadership skills for sure. Has nothing to do with getting better pixels for less time invested with Nihilum.

[Zereh]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Project 1999 PvP
Status:
Players: UP
150
.:: Server Info ::.


If nilly only logs in to drop raid targets once a week, that means you should have over 100 people to fill the hole with [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No logic allowed in RnF!@123!!