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[Domo]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Constitution is designed to be updated to meet the changes in society and technology. It's a living document. Regressive alt-right cultists want to live in the past and refuse to upgrade.

a.k.a. amish 2.0

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I swear we covered this a fortnight ago. 2nd A is a nice intention, but small arms aren't enough. You need support from the army or an outside nation to overthrow a tyranny. Look at the war of independence. This was true even then.

Thanks France!

France didn't help until the end of the war and the civilian army is the largest in the US. They just reported that there are 423 million guns in the US. There have been several overthrows of government from the people. Check out on google.

The war of independence was a major upset to the largest empire in the world at the time and carried out by civilians with small arms. The French assisted at the end of the world and in no part are the largest contribution to the war. It is extremely bad taste to discredit people who fought for independence at the time.

The argument that you need an outside force to help you control your own problems is absurd and that is the current problem Hong Kong is facing. They are asking for help. This is also true in the aspect that the shear amount of self defense cases with use of a firearm.

The point is that if the government removes the second amendment and then decides to impede on the first, what action do you have besides asking another government?

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Constitution is designed to be updated to meet the changes in society and technology. It's a living document. Regressive alt-right cultists want to live in the past and refuse to upgrade.

Regressive is impeding on the right to defend yourself by any means necessary against evil people. Regressive is trying to manipulate a document that YOU believe isn't up to speed when rights should never change. That is the point. Freedom of rights should always be the same.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

France didn't help until the end of the war and the civilian army is the largest in the US. They just reported that there are 423 million guns in the US. There have been several overthrows of government from the people. Check out on google.

The war of independence was a major upset to the largest empire in the world at the time and carried out by civilians with small arms. The French assisted at the end of the world and in no part are the largest contribution to the war. It is extremely bad taste to discredit people who fought for independence at the time.

The argument that you need an outside force to help you control your own problems is absurd and that is the current problem Hong Kong is facing. They are asking for help. This is also true in the aspect that the shear amount of self defense cases with use of a firearm.

The point is that if the government removes the second amendment and then decides to impede on the first, what action do you have besides asking another government?

I've got a mighty fine bridge to sell you if you think that any weaponry you have in your house would be effective against a hostile US government.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regressive is impeding on the right to defend yourself by any means necessary against evil people. Regressive is trying to manipulate a document that YOU believe isn't up to speed when rights should never change. That is the point. Freedom of rights should always be the same.

We've added quite a few rights and taken away others. Why is this one special?

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've got a mighty fine bridge to sell you if you think that any weaponry you have in your house would be effective against a hostile US government.

Lol I'd love to hear about weaponry and war tactics from a stay at home bookkeeper that does not believe in the right to self defense with a semi automatic rifle.

My rifles are the same calibers as many rifles out there. They are the same caliber as in use by military's across the world. If you hit your target, it has the same effect. If you think some foreign military is going to just nuke the shit out of someone, it just shows how naive you are. There is something called mutually assured destruction when it comes to nukes and an agreement that is kept between the largest nations. No one gets a nuke off before the other one sends theirs too.

If someone were to invade whether domestic or foreign, you need to establish ground forces. With 40 million+ armed civilians, it is very hard to invade the large land mass that we have and when you have guerrilla forces of even a modest 5 million causing havoc. Most standing military's are no where near that size.

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We've added quite a few rights and taken away others. Why is this one special?

Because even as you stated - if the government has superior firepower, we are many and many can do more than a few. If you give people the right to organize when something is immoral and overthrow the oppressor with a sometimes needed force, they need to be able to arm themselves. Being able to arm and organize protects speech, oppression and immoral acts. The problem being if you aren't willing to use force and they are, you have to comply.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol I'd love to hear about weaponry and war tactics from a stay at home bookkeeper that does not believe in the right to self defense with a semi automatic rifle.

My rifles are the same calibers as many rifles out there. They are the same caliber as in use by military's across the world. If you hit your target, it has the same effect. If you think some foreign military is going to just nuke the shit out of someone, it just shows how naive you are. There is something called mutually assured destruction when it comes to nukes and an agreement that is kept between the largest nations. No one gets a nuke off before the other one sends theirs too.

If someone were to invade whether domestic or foreign, you need to establish ground forces. With 40 million+ armed civilians, it is very hard to invade the large land mass that we have and when you have guerrilla forces of even a modest 5 million causing havoc. Most standing military's are no where near that size.

Can't wait for the forced buyback and removal of guns. Going to be glorious to know that political and religious zealots won't have access to them. I'm infinitely more worried an alt-right cultist incel is going to snap and shoot up a mall than any boogeyman you can produce about the big bad government.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Constitution is designed to be updated to meet the changes in society and technology. It's a living document. Regressive alt-right cultists want to live in the past and refuse to upgrade.

Pilpul. We all know you want to subvert it. I’ll repeat again, its largely all timeless. Unless you can make an overwhelming argument, which you clearly can’t.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pilpul. We all know you want to subvert it. I’ll repeat again, its largely all timeless. Unless you can make an overwhelming argument, which you clearly can’t.

Why do you keep using that white supremacist buzzword?