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Old 12-31-2023, 11:56 PM
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Old 12-31-2023, 11:58 PM
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I am not sure why this is relevant to the topic at hand. I could just say the same thing with Mages, and we would be at an impasse. This isn't an argument, it is an argumentum ad populum fallacy.
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Old 01-01-2024, 12:13 AM
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Admit lifetaps arent just dmg and we can talk. And by damaging the mob AND healing myself (as a necro) im value adding.
Canni gives the sham mana.
Lich gives the necro mana. Twitching gives OTHERS mana.
Lich then, by the transitive quality gives others mana and remember we in a group.
You as the sham can buff well. That is a granted. But like others have said a charmed, torch wielding quading hasted beast of a pet would get minimal adds from ya buffs.

Necro has technically mana on tap (lolocaust) for all. An actual useful pet. And the group would be free of a napkin mathhead spouting factual facts that he is superior to a mage as dps with 5 mobs root parked and epic dotting/managing them all while torporing/utilitying/rerooting and healing on charm breaks.
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Old 01-01-2024, 12:17 AM
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Admit lifetaps arent just dmg and we can talk. And by damaging the mob AND healing myself (as a necro) im not value adding.
I never said Lifetaps were only damage. I am not sure where you think you read that. Please quote me.

Healing the Necromancer via Torpor simply removes the need for Necromancers to heal via Lifetaps. Lifetaps are factually less mana efficient than DD's/DoT's in terms of damage. Lifetaps are less mana efficient specifically because of the healing component.

Lifetaps are obviously great when you are soloing, or you need a quick heal in an emergency. In a group with a healer you can do more damage by using your more mana efficient DD's/DoT's, and let the Shaman heal your Demi Lich/Shadowbond damage for basically no cost.
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I never said Lifetaps were only damage. I am not sure where you think you read that. Please quote me.

Healing the Necromancer via Torpor simply removes the need for Necromancers to heal via Lifetaps, which are factually less mana efficient than DD's/DoT's in terms of damage. They are less mana efficient specifically because of the healing component.

Lifetaps are obviously great when you are soloing. In a group with a healer you can do more damage by using your more mana efficient DD's/DoT's, and let the Shaman heal your Demi Lich/Shadowbond damage for basically no cost.
All good and valid points. Don't let this gang of naysayers try to bully you out of your math. It's right there in the equations.
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Old 01-01-2024, 12:37 AM
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All good and valid points. Don't let this gang of naysayers try to bully you out of your math. It's right there in the equations.
Indeed! Glad we agree.
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Old 01-01-2024, 01:05 AM
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Troxx is admitting he has lost the debate via silly gif. Again. Thank you for conceding. I am glad to see you learned something about your level 60 Necromancer that you apparently didn't know before!
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