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[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He didn't say that. You have really got to stop twisting people's words to suit the argument you want to rebut. You have a nasty habit of doing that.

You assuming you can say what you want without consequences because this is RnF is illogical.

Actually he did.....go read it.

[Autotune]

I liked it more when IB was here, least then I could talk to them in-game and laugh it up with them about what people were posting in RnF.

Hell, I think even Tanthallas has reached out to me in PMs and we were pretty civil. I seriously doubt he gets all bent out of shape at what is posted here and allows it to influence him much at all, if any.



Instead of guessing what the other side is feeling, ask them directly. See if they hate you because of what is posted back-and-forth between the guilds on RnF or if it's because of shit that happens in-game.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually he did.....go read it.

If you defend in a thoughtless and trollesque manner, yes. Such an activity is non-productive.

As always, we find the callous disregard that the average RnF poster has for other people to be quite harmful.

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you defend in a thoughtless and trollesque manner, yes. Such an activity is non-productive.

As always, we find the callous disregard that the average RnF poster has for other people to be quite harmful.

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[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you defend in a thoughtless and trollesque manner, yes. Such an activity is non-productive.

As always, we find the callous disregard that the average RnF poster has for other people to be quite harmful.

yeah, I callously disregarded the other people so much, that I went to Ragefire with Relapsee to start forcing VD and other guilds to discuss the Rotation that was supposed to start.

I callously disregarded it even more when our guild was thinking about disregarding the rotation agreement that was made and told them I'd just guild remove myself if they went through with it.

I callously disregarded the other people when I tried to get their guilds into the raid scene back when it was just TMO, IB and VD. I disregarded them so much that I reached out to Divinity, BDA, and Taken and actually had some disregarding progress going on before too much went down to continue.

I callously disregarded the people in IB. I often talked to them the exact same way I did in-game, they all returned in kinds. They all hated me in-game exactly as they expressed on the forums.

I also callously disregarded VD. I never once reached out to their leadership to try and resolve our differences in-game. Not once, or twice, or even three times.

I always disregarded people in-game like I did on the forums. My RnF style was exactly like my in-game style.... exactly.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You implied that people take RnF as fact. Anyone who would believe that would have to be stupid.

Really? Major logic fail man.

First, you state as my position that people take RnF as fact.

Second, you assert that people who read and give any credence to what occurs in RnF are stupid. (If that is what you are actually saying, your response could also be construed as people believing the statement "You implied that people take RnF as fact" as being stupid.)

Third, you take your position that people giving credence to RnF are stupid and assign it to me, thus presenting me as calling everyone on the server stupid, which I do not adopt.

[Jarnauga]

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[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah, I callously disregarded the other people so much, that I went to Ragefire with Relapsee to start forcing VD and other guilds to discuss the Rotation that was supposed to start.

I callously disregarded it even more when our guild was thinking about disregarding the rotation agreement that was made and told them I'd just guild remove myself if they went through with it.

I callously disregarded the other people when I tried to get their guilds into the raid scene back when it was just TMO, IB and VD. I disregarded them so much that I reached out to Divinity, BDA, and Taken and actually had some disregarding progress going on before too much went down to continue.

I callously disregarded the people in IB. I often talked to them the exact same way I did in-game, they all returned in kinds. They all hated me in-game exactly as they expressed on the forums.

I also callously disregarded VD. I never once reached out to their leadership to try and resolve our differences in-game. Not once, or twice, or even three times.

I always disregarded people in-game like I did on the forums. My RnF style was exactly like my in-game style.... exactly.

Not that I've pointed a finger at you specifically, but I'll bite. My question is if the two are so different, what's the point of your general RnF mannerisms? Do you believe that it helps you in game? Does it somehow give you more credibility? Despite your supposed in-game successes, I submit that such an attitude did not assist you.

Suppose your forum persona were exactly mirrored to the in-game person you have presented. Do you believe that it is more likely than not that it might have made things easier? Or does a hostile forum persona somehow make in-game engagements more productive? If so, I'd love to hear the explanation.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And a marginal porportion of the server population participated in them. RnF is not here to be a solution to server issues. If you have a solution don't post it here?

You can believe all you want that my conduct on RnF doesn't translate or shape people's impressions of your guild and guildmates, but it doesn't.

You implied that people take RnF as fact. Anyone who would believe that would have to be stupid.

I have never once even bothered to look you up in game. I have never spoken to you unless you were on some alt somewhere. The only thing I have ever seen you do is spout drivel on these forums. And with 100% certainty I can say that what you say here certainly does reflect how you are perceived.

But that's OK. I understand. I know exactly what makes you tick. Overall you know what you are doing here. We all know what you are doing here. It's how you want to play this game. I honestly could care less about you. But when I see your name on a post, spewing your nonsensical tripe, I see everything wrong with this box. I would absolutely respect TMO more if you were not in that guild. That means, to me, that's the game every single one of you wants to play.


Just sayin!

PS. IRL I think jeremy would be so much more fun to hang out with than you.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not that I've pointed a finger at you specifically, but I'll bite. My question is if the two are so different, what's the point of your general RnF mannerisms? Do you believe that it helps you in game? Does it somehow give you more credibility? Despite your supposed in-game successes, I submit that such an attitude did not assist you.

Suppose your forum persona were exactly mirrored to the in-game person you have presented. Do you believe that it is more likely than not that it might have made things easier? Or does a hostile forum persona somehow make in-game engagements more productive? If so, I'd love to hear the explanation.

Oh, I know that you guys aren't directly pointing fingers at me. However, I can't say that I know the experiences of other RnF trolls.

what's the point of your general RnF mannerisms? Entertainment. Mostly for myself, but some others (some in the guild, some in other guilds and some I don't even know who they are/were) have reached out to me in-game and on the forums with PMs to say they enjoy the mindless posts.

Do you believe that it helps you in game? Helps? no. Most often it didn't have an effect on me in-game. The only thing it did was keep people from harassing me because they thought I was an asshole (which kinda helped, because I don't overly enjoy talking to random people). When I first reached out some people were wary, but not for long.

Does it somehow give you more credibility? Actions speak louder than words. I needed no credibility gains from RnF.

Suppose your forum persona were exactly mirrored to the in-game person you have presented. Do you believe that it is more likely than not that it might have made things easier? Easier, no. Nothing was ever difficult to get across. People often were more cautious from my guild tag than my forum persona.


Or does a hostile forum persona somehow make in-game engagements more productive? In some ways it helped, mostly had no effect (very few people read RnF). The only negative it had was with VD, they couldn't get past the "omg he's acting different than he does on RnF, the truth forum". I say VD, but only in terms of the majority of it's leadership, some of the other members figured it out easily enough.


As for the supposed in-game remarks I made, you can ask any of the leaders (not sure if the BDA guys are still around) about talks with them. I know I talked to Glitterati a few times and I think Sadad from BDA, each of those had an Officer I talked to as well. I've helped those 2 guilds in other ways as well, but I'll never say how.