Vesica Dei: Cant Kill a VP Dragon? Constantly Ruin other guilds attempts

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. The full log is available by clicking the link to the original post, i edited it for brevity since apparently reading is hard for you.
2. Getting hit by an AE of a mob that you aren't already on the aggro list for does not add you to the aggro list. If you really need proof of that i can go through logs to find it as well. Do you really not know anything about this game's mechanics?

You are good about trying to deride other people's knowledge with your suppositions but I'm am still waiting for proof. It was confirmed we had FTE, as much as you want to deny it. Unless you are saying GM's are editing encounter logs?

[Banbarian]

Originally Posted by Uthagain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh that reminds me. Did you ever learn how to backstab for more than 150?

rofl, this guy is mad

also i've seen shitin pull 190dps or so, so i'm assuming he did. or got a gm buff from xzerion, he gave them out to us a lot.

[Dravingar]

Originally Posted by Uthagain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh that reminds me. Did you ever learn how to backstab for more than 150?

Great way to remind everyone of how badly coded rogues are on this server.

[Rusl]

Originally Posted by Banbarian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rofl, this guy is mad

also i've seen shitin pull 190dps or so, so i'm assuming he did. or got a gm buff from Getsome, he gave them out to us a lot.

[Banbarian]

Xzetrystome?

HOW DEEP DOES THE RABBIT HOLE GO

[Shiftin]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are good about trying to deride other people's knowledge with your suppositions but I'm am still waiting for proof. It was confirmed we had FTE, as much as you want to deny it. Unless you are saying GM's are editing encounter logs?

What suppositions am I making?

Every shout of talendor is an engage out of seek mode, meaning a fresh encounter log as encounter logs are wiped each time a mob enters seek mode having not been killed.

This means that you are lying about having encounter logs which show the story how you describe it, because they *cannot exist*. This is a fact, not a supposition. It's how encounter logs work here and it's really quite simple.

If you don't believe me that encounter logs work this way:

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately in that case it won't show the monk, since it wasn't part of the same encounter (engagement).

The main focus here is... if the mob has 0 people on it's aggro list, it wipes it's encounter history. When it dies, it saves it's encounter history.

So even if you had FTE (you didn't, the second talendor shout is proof that the mob went into seek mode), those logs wouldn't exist after what Qadosx did.

Ergo, you are lying about having encounter logs that prove the FTE going back to before we wiped, based on your lack of understanding of the server and game mechanics. So yes, i'm going to deride you for that and continue to make you look stupid. Even uthgaard switched to personal attacks because he knows, as a former dev and GM, that what i'm saying is accurate.

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So even if you had FTE (you didn't, the second talendor shout is proof that the mob went into seek mode), those logs wouldn't exist after what Qadosx did.

this is true. and i've NEVER said there were encounter logs that support that you guys had FTE on that talendor, Alarti. The only thing that i might have said is that the encounter logs would show you guys as having FTE if the dragon had been memblurred.

Of course there are still people who think that I can see the encounter log for an NPC that didn't die on a previous encounter. Because they obviously don't listen to me. >.>

I will say that if someone uses memblur to try to snipe FTE and fuck up the encounter logs I am going to ladle out nice long suspensions. So don't do it.

Please don't misunderstand: I'm not saying that i'm going to suspend people for using it in VP to grief. that's a no GM involvement zone (for raid disputes) I wish people wouldn't use it but i won't say you can't.

That brings me to this point:

Twice this week I have told people not to do things in VP that are exploits. Both times the attitude i was met with was: "There is no GM involvement here. so we can exploit" I realize you are trying to be smart asses about the memblur thing. I don't really care. If I warn you about an exploit and tell you not to use it then the proper response is "Yes Amelinda." not, "BUT THERE IS NO GM INVOLVEMENT IN VP!"

[08:38] {Rogean} up to you, but at least one of those. GM Involvement is specific to raid disputes, it doesn't give them a pass on exploiting game mechanics

[bluejam]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this is true. and i've NEVER said there were encounter logs that support that you guys had FTE on that talendor, Alarti. The only thing that i might have said is that the encounter logs would show you guys as having FTE if the dragon had been memblurred.

Of course there are still people who think that I can see the encounter log for an NPC that didn't die on a previous encounter. Because they obviously don't listen to me. >.>

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[booter]

lol ownd

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[08:38] {Rogean} up to you, but at least one of those. GM Involvement is specific to raid disputes, it doesn't give them a pass on exploiting game mechanics

see, that red text seems like using memblur to completely heal a target (when it shouldn't) is exploiting game mechanics.