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[robayon]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well you certainly have the right to be wrong[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Freedom of speech.

But it is factually incorrect to compare the military to abortion. You are basically just saying anything with a similar outcome (death) is the same. That is nonsensical.

Logically that is like saying "Working in a factory is equal to abortion because some jobs are dangerous enough to kill you".

Here's the rub: is every person killed by the state or its tentacles through some means justified? Every casualty of war? Noncombatants? Civilians who are in the wrong building?

What about someone who takes a job in a dangerous sweatshop because they have no other feasible option, and then gets killed? What about pollution from that sweatshop causing a series of miscarriages in a village downstream from the water source it pollutes?

Until we address these complicated things, conservatives bloviating about abortions in the USA, and using the state to attempt to control it, is hypocrisy. We all look the other way on a certain amount of death

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's the rub: is every person killed by the state or its tentacles through some means justified? Every casualty of war? Noncombatants? Civilians who are in the wrong building?

What about someone who takes a job in a dangerous sweatshop because they have no other feasible option, and then gets killed? What about pollution from that sweatshop causing a series of miscarriages in a village downstream from the water source it pollutes?

Until we address these complicated things, conservatives bloviating about abortions in the USA, and using the state to attempt to control it, is hypocrisy. We all look the other way on a certain amount of death

Nobody is saying all deaths caused by the military are justified.

Nobody is saying it is fair that some people have to work shitty jobs.

Nobody is saying life is fair.

The reality is the problems you are talking about have never been solved by any civilization in history. Ever. I am not saying that we shouldn't try to solve these issues, but you are basically trying to attribute problems as old as humanity to America, which is wrong.

We fix problems when we can, and abortion is an easier thing to fix than the dilemma of nations going to war, or solving poverty once and for all.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Until we address these complicated things, conservatives bloviating about abortions in the USA, and using the state to attempt to control it, is hypocrisy. We all look the other way on a certain amount of death

Why is it hypocritical for the American state to protect the American people?

[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feel free to make a cogent argument yourself, I guess, until then you're still categorized as a lazy reactionary

Sure, up until 4 seconds ago the left was hell bent on using terms like "birthing person". Now women are back on the top of the stack. The lefts problem is they pretend to care about far too many issues. The strength of the right is it's ability to boil down and focus on issues for what they really are.

[starkind]

So instead of offering to take care of babies and make the world fit for them and their mom's you'll just throw more people in Mordors "jails". Indenturing them to the state and the corporations benefitting from the state.

You're all legendary heroes to me. For taking the lazy Satanic way out.

[Jibartik]

Whos not offering to take care of kids? Adopting is a privilege in this country under the current law.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is it hypocritical for the American state to protect the American people?

Is "protecting the American people" invading Afghanistan and Iraq but looking the other way on Saudi Arabia?

I wouldn't be opposed to a military if it was purely defensive, but that's not how it works

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whos not offering to take care of kids? Adopting is a privilege in this country under the current law.

Have you walked around outside? Let's clean up the environment and fix the homeless and poor and sick before we go jerking off our own egos about superyachts and our 20,000 car colonies on mars.

Maybe put people like Putin, Trump, and Biden in their places too. All three of them belong on a farm. Recycling manure or weaving egg baskets or whatever until they are fit and mentally healthy again.

Same goes for all the rest too. It's a long list. Start there.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is "protecting the American people" invading Afghanistan and Iraq but looking the other way on Saudi Arabia?

I wouldn't be opposed to a military if it was purely defensive, but that's not how it works

If we're satisfied the Saudi state was not in any way complicit in the attack on US, sure why not?

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you walked around outside? Let's clean up the environment and fix the homeless and poor and sick before we go jerking off our own egos about superyachts and our 20,000 car colonies on mars.

Maybe put people like Putin, Trump, and Biden in their places too.

govement not solving any of these issues with YOUR money: "these things take time!"

elon not solving these issues with HIS money: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE