My Theory About Why Feminism is Currently Irrelevent to Millenials

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i listen to him and while I disagree on various points, i have learned things from the exchanges :3

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[loramin]

Originally Posted by mtb tripper the 2nd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people like you enjoy feeling like they are a part of something important. That you are doing something for the greater good of humanity. I understand. I think it's human nature.

We're in agreement. If people couldn't get some kind of gratification out of fighting to make the world better I think we'd all go mad and nothing would get any better.

But I have no illusions about my importance: the entirety of my agenda here (and that's if I'm wildly successful, which I doubt I've been) is just to change a few nerds' minds. Obviously that alone won't do jack.

But you can't look at it like that, you have to look at it like, if we're ever going to get to a place where we actually solve these problems, we're going to have to have the support of a wide swath of the population. History has proven as much: you can't get feminist improvements in society just from feminists, or even just from women: men have to believe things need to change too. Ditto for black issues and whites: we'll never make the races in our society equal without the support of (many) white people.

Originally Posted by mtb tripper the 2nd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Minorities and women don't want your help, or need your help. I think you are looking at a very narrow gap of human rights in the grand scheme of humanities existence. There will always be people complaining about shit, and there has been since the creation of communal societies. When someone isn't on top they will do whatever they can to get there themselves. Race, gender, they are all scapegoats to compartmentalize and control masses of humans.

First off, they do want our help. I was specifically recruited to be a Rape Prevention Peer Educator (by an extremely feminist organization) precisely because I was male. Think about how little everyone here listens and believes me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Now imagine how much less you'd believe a woman (that is, if she wasn't trolled off the forum long before page 37). Now this is not to say the very feminist organization believed men were better communicators, it's just that they recognized a basic human fact, that we are all more receptive of ideas that come from people more similar to us.

And yes, it's human nature to complain, and human nature to believe that larger forces are responsible when really it's your own damn fault things are going poorly. I 100% agree. But that doesn't invalidate anything. You can believe humans like to complain, and also believe that some people have less advantages in our society than other people: the two ideas aren't mutually exclusive. The fact that some people blame society for their personal problems does NOT mean that every problem is a personal one or that there are no societal ones.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by mtb tripper the 2nd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people like you enjoy feeling like they are a part of something important.

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[fash]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone needs to re-read their history books.

Gotta agree with ya here.

White supremacy will be strengthened, not weakened, by women’s suffrage.

--Carrie Chapman Catt, founder of the League of Women Voters

The enfranchisement of women would insure immediate and durable white supremacy, honestly attained, for upon unquestioned authority it is stated that in every southern state but one there are more educated women than all the illiterate voters, white and black, native and foreign, combined.

--Belle Kearny, suffragist, first female Senator of Mississippi

Alien illiterates rule our cities today; the saloon is their palace, and the toddy stick, their scepter. The colored race multiplies like the locusts of Egypt.

--Frances Willard, feminist lecturer, founder of the National Council of Women, women's suffragist, instrumental in the passage of the 19th amendment

What will we and our daughters suffer if these degraded black men are allowed to have the rights that would make them even worse than our Saxon fathers?

--Elizabeth Cady Stanton, suffragist, social activist, abolitionist, and leading figure of the early women's rights movement, woke feminist

The white men, reinforced by the educated white women, could ‘snow under’ the negro vote in every state, and the white race would maintain its supremacy without corrupting or intimidating the negroes.

--Laura Clay, founder and first president of the Kentucky Equal Rights Association, leader of the American women's suffrage movement, powerful orator, active in the Democratic Party

Wew, these woke feminists are too edgy for me.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gotta agree with ya here.











Wew, these woke feminists are too edgy for me.

Wow, people 70+ years ago (even some feminists) were racist? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously though, people are a product of their time, and humanity has gotten better over time. Many historical figures had terrible flaws: Ghandi basically killed his wife (by not letting the doctors give her penicillin) and was a racist, Mother Theresa was largely a church fundraiser and not a humanitarian, MLK cheated on his wife and (at the end) was basically a communist ... you get the idea.

But still I don't think the fact that human beings are flawed disproves the relevance of rights groups.

[fash]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But still I don't think the fact that human beings are flawed disproves the relevance of rights groups.

Heh, of course. That wasn't my point. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But, do you think they raised legitimate points?

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by mtb tripper the 2nd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people like you enjoy feeling like they are a part of something important. That you are doing something for the greater good of humanity. I understand. I think it's human nature.

Minorities and women don't want your help, or need your help. I think you are looking at a very narrow gap of human rights in the grand scheme of humanities existence. There will always be people complaining about shit, and there has been since the creation of communal societies. When someone isn't on top they will do whatever they can to get there themselves. Race, gender, they are all scapegoats to compartmentalize and control masses of humans.

Humans have become way too concerned with petty social issues instead of economic issues.

Can't wait for humans to evolve into sentient orbs that communicate through telepathy so we can get rid of this bullshit.

REGARDING GENDER
There is this thing called sex chromosomes. boys have xy, girls have xx,

inb4 gender and teh sexes is diffrentz

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[JurisDictum]

What they have found with affirmative action is people are OK with it if:

1) The minority appears disadvantaged that is getting the affirmative action.

2) They feel like they are getting enough to get by economically speaking.

If 1 or 2 goes to shit, Affirmative action basically causes racial tension. People that work and barely afford groceries get much more annoyed by a big family coming in on food stamps that a person with a good salary (generally speaking).

"You can always hire one half of the poor to kill the other half."

[hyejin]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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behind these all black shades,

number 9 trae,

red poster rep where u stay,


posting campaign off champagne,

can't slow down MTB fast lane,

he's off that kerosene,


toe down that cuck,

let the walls blow out,

a psychokinetic DMT nega, twist the fro n let it gro out



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this one bangs

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What they have found with affirmative action is people are OK with it if:

1) The minority appears disadvantaged that is getting the affirmative action.

2) They feel like they are getting enough to get by economically speaking.

If 1 or 2 goes to shit, Affirmative action basically causes racial tension. People that work and barely afford groceries get much more annoyed by a big family coming in on food stamps that a person with a good salary (generally speaking).

"You can always hire one half of the poor to kill the other half."

Affirmative action, if employed at all, should reflect socioeconomic status and nothing else