New ToV Racing Rules

[zanderklocke]

What is a handout in EverQuest?

Is the ability to engage a mob and the mobs leading up to it the original way the designers of the game intended, through a dungeon crawl, a handout?

The competition on this server is arbitrary. The expansions came out so fast on live that players were not impeding each other from trying to kill mobs. It was harder to get to 60 and have enough players for a raid force on the live timeline due to how fast the expansions came out.

What is considered competition here is not *actually* a real thing in the mechanics of the original game. It is a totally player created thing.

Somehow handout has been equated to playing the game as it was originally intended. A handout would be Sirken giving out items in the East Commonlands Tunnel.

Yes, some items should only be in the hands of top raid guilds, but I think this server has a warped idea of what that means. This is the fault of how many years this server it out and why non-progressive MMOs are actually not a good thing.

[zanderklocke]

[QUOTE=zanderklocke;2244593]

Yes, some items should only be in the hands of top raid guilds, but I think this server has a warped idea of what that means. This is the fault of how many years this server is out and why non-progressive MMOs are actually not a good thing./QUOTE]

Also, as much as Chest's my way or the highway attitude is obnoxious, I tend to agree with most of his posts lately. I think his approach is pretty reasonable, and I commend his guild and the other guilds not willing to do the stuff the top guilds are doing.

[JurisDictum]

To repeat what has been said a million times:

NToV as hardcore only made since on live, because no one else had to fucking time to be there. Now, that people do have time to be there that aren't hardcore, the idea of NToV being "hardcore only" doesn't work like it did. It only works for a subset of people with low self-esteem that love the idea they are getting pixils no one else can -- even though they want to!

It's always the god damn band-wagoners that pipe up first too. The people that did the least to get the most. That's how these people work, they have no separation between their personal interests and their server philosophy.

[Nibblewitz]

Your personal interests force me to question your server philosophy.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To repeat what has been said a million times:

NToV as hardcore only made since on live, because no one else had to fucking time to be there. Now, that people do have time to be there that aren't hardcore, the idea of NToV being "hardcore only" doesn't work like it did. It only works for a subset of people with low self-esteem that love the idea they are getting pixils no one else can -- even though they want to!

It's always the god damn band-wagoners that pipe up first too. The people that did the least to get the most. That's how these people work, they have no separation between their personal interests and their server philosophy.

I'm no proctologist, but I'm pretty sure you pulled this out of your ass.

[Juevento]

I personally enjoyed last nights repop. We got to kill some old favorites and give a good solid effort on some new mobs (Yelinak and Klandicar). The most fun I've had in the game in the past few months have been the two recent repops. Nothing in my mind beats having to scramble and organize a large group of folks to spots all over norrath to kill as many dargonz as you can. That's the good stuff.

Regular repops with variance literally has me contemplating quitting every week. That crap is soul crushing and only drives folks away from the game. This more than anything will kill this server eventually.

The competition aspect is a strange animal in this game. Sure it's classic to some extent, but there is an entire server for folks who want real competition in EQ. It's p99 red. In my mind, anyone who really wanted competition would be over there.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my mind, anyone who really wanted competition would be over there.

In your mind... one will only find moth balls and nude images of Chest Rockwell looking down at you as he unzips.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In your mind... one will only find moth balls and nude images of Chest Rockwell looking down at you as he unzips.

In your mouth...you will find my balls

[Swish]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's always the god damn band-wagoners that pipe up first too. The people that did the least to get the most.

It is okay to have a job, an income, and a life outside of emulated elf sim. Just because you're lacking doesn't mean you're entitled to pixel lockdown.

[trite]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To repeat what has been said a million times:

NToV as hardcore only made since on live, because no one else had to fucking time to be there. Now, that people do have time to be there that aren't hardcore, the idea of NToV being "hardcore only" doesn't work like it did. It only works for a subset of people with low self-esteem that love the idea they are getting pixils no one else can -- even though they want to!

It's always the god damn band-wagoners that pipe up first too. The people that did the least to get the most. That's how these people work, they have no separation between their personal interests and their server philosophy.

First of all, limited pixels due to limited resources AKA a lack of instances is one of the things that makes classic everquest great....esoteric prestige among other nerds who have also invested time in the elf sim is why we play lol.....there is no other reason to grind out anything....

Secondly....

Casual is a euphemism on this server for incompetent, rules are already completely fair...if you haven't invested the time to get the loot with the current rules, it's so rare you definitely don't deserve it...Only 108ish items drop off Vulak in one year and I'd estimate 300 active players are already participating in NToV encounters between awakened and aftermath on a weekly basis....

It's not like these guilds have a Rampage style recruiting system where numbers were kept limited and the vetting process was extreme...Velious has forced the top guilds to get large and anyone can apply who meets the requirements. If you don't meet those requirements you aren't ready.....

Guilds that don't have the wherewithal to compete with the current rule set simply don't belong...