Upcoming change to class epics

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still 100% not your server.

Still never claimed it was my server. You keep using this as if its some magical excuse.

"It's their ball and they can just take it and go home" as if that makes it okay, true as it is.

I can still voice concerns in a reasonable way. I am not talking shit, in fact I have been quite calm, yet passionate about this because I care. I have even pointed out ways to accomplish what they seem to be saying without a retroactive nerf, unless this was required for red - which I couldn't care less about.

I would just like an honest up front reason that isn't bullshit. Again, their statement to justify this explains why going forward, the NPCs wont/shouldn't have accept/ed the items if you are under 46, but zero reasons why every single non 46 lv character MUST NOT BE ABLE TO equip the epic until 46.

Again, you could de-level yourself to 5 and still equip your epic on live - Mudcrush did it on Nameless. ( think he stopped at 10-11 iirc) He had stacks and stacks of corpses and releveled his char with full VP gear because he could.

If you had it, you could equip it - period. That's classic. That's how it should be if you are gonna claim to be a 'classic everquest' server.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still never claimed it was my server. You keep using this as if its some magical excuse.

"It's their ball and they can just take it and go home" as if that makes it okay, true as it is.

I can still voice concerns in a reasonable way. I am not talking shit, in fact I have been quite calm, yet passionate about this because I care. I have even pointed out ways to accomplish what they seem to be saying without a retroactive nerf, unless this was required for red - which I couldn't care less about.

I would just like an honest up front reason that isn't bullshit. Again, their statement to justify this explains why going forward, the NPCs wont/shouldn't have accept/ed the items if you are under 46, but zero reasons why every single non 46 lv character MUST NOT BE ABLE TO equip the epic until 46.

Again, you could de-level yourself to 5 and still equip your epic on live - Mudcrush did it on Nameless. ( think he stopped at 10-11 iirc) He had stacks and stacks of corpses and releveled his char with full VP gear because he could.

If you had it, you could equip it - period. That's classic. That's how it should be if you are gonna claim to be a 'classic everquest' server.

After scrolling through the last few pages of this thread, do you realize that this is not RnF? If you want to rant about how unhappy you are with this change, take it to the proper place.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would just like an honest up front reason that isn't bullshit. Again, their statement to justify this explains why going forward, the NPCs wont/shouldn't have accept/ed the items if you are under 46, but zero reasons why every single non 46 lv character MUST NOT BE ABLE TO equip the epic until 46.

This. I can't even find the words to agree more without bashing staff.

Its a tough situation with absolutely no rhetoric or logic behind it and the players can barely speak on the subject because it was such a bad call, that its difficult to convey constructively when such a destructive decision was made here on the existing epics people achieved.

[Seltius]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wow, still salty

I find it interesting that you would post something like this Ele considering how hard you work to make things on P99 more classic instead of less.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Seltius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find it interesting that you would post something like this Ele considering how hard you work to make things on P99 more classic instead of less.

There are at least two different ways of doing bug reports and seeking changes to the server. Repeatedly calling out devs in patch notes, bug reports, or general chat is not conducive to the desired outcome.

I do not agree with the epic change either, but at the same time I can understand their rational. I view this server as an on-going beta project (obviates the omg but 4 years of Kunark argument). I provide input where I find it and the devs can do with it what they will. At the end of the day, I can only point things out, I don't have access to code or a say in implementation.

We'll see what raid scene/item/quest modifications occur when (if) a fresh proper timeline server happens.

[Seltius]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are at least two different ways of doing bug reports and seeking changes to the server. Repeatedly calling out devs in patch notes, bug reports, or general chat is not conducive to the desired outcome.

I do not agree with the epic change either, but at the same time I can understand their rational. I view this server as an on-going beta project (obviates the omg but 4 years of Kunark argument). I provide input where I find it and the devs can do with it what they will. At the end of the day, I can only point things out, I don't have access to code or a say in implementation.

We'll see what raid scene/item/quest modifications occur when (if) a fresh proper timeline server happens.

Prior to this I don't think I have ever said anything negative about the Devs(I will have to search my posts to be sure but don't remember if I did) or what they are trying to do here. This has been an amazing experience being able to play through this era again and hang with friends online that in some cases I haven't gamed with in a decade or longer. Even in this I am just voicing my frustration and not actually calling them out. I tried to at least offer a point of view along with suggestions and a willingness to try and locate proof regarding classic era epics.

I have not resorted to personal attacks on anyone or been abusive in any way on this thread. I also offered to try and dig up proof in the form of SS and logs from almost 15 years ago.


Samoht this is not the argument your looking for. 1.5 epic is in no way classic and the time period I am referring to is classic or I wouldn't post about it.

As far as how or why my ranger has his epics are really not your concern. But to cut off your next post before it happens. I came back after a break earlier this year and some friends(Thank you again Catt and Snack) helped me get all of the pieces for my epics except for 2 main pieces and those I traded a Shield of Rainbow Hues and a Fungi for. Both of which I obtained 2 years ago while raiding and leveling. I log into my ranger now only to chat with friends. I don't really play it to group or farm or xp at all.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Seltius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the time period I am referring to is classic or I wouldn't post about it.

The likelihood of you forgetting exactly when you finished your monk epic is much higher than you having a monk epic pre-46 during the Kunark era.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Seltius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prior to this I don't think I have ever said anything negative about the Devs(I will have to search my posts to be sure but don't remember if I did) or what they are trying to do here. This has been an amazing experience being able to play through this era again and hang with friends online that in some cases I haven't gamed with in a decade or longer. Even in this I am just voicing my frustration and not actually calling them out. I tried to at least offer a point of view along with suggestions and a willingness to try and locate proof regarding classic era epics.

I have not resorted to personal attacks on anyone or been abusive in any way on this thread. I also offered to try and dig up proof in the form of SS and logs from almost 15 years ago.

Wasn't directing that particular comment to you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You quoted my salty post, which is what I was referencing.

[am0n]

I'd still like to see them remove MQ on Epic quests. Make the players do the quest instead of buying it. It'd also help people who want to do the quest instead of buying it, since people won't be camping mobs solely for the intent of trying to sell the item.

[Mudslinger]

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