Hey Forsaken - Page 37

Seltius · #**361** 06-12-2015, 11:44 AM

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I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU.... :P

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/hug its ok

Samoht · #**362** 06-12-2015, 11:46 AM

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If I have 100 apples in a basket, and I take 50 and put them in a new basket, and then add another two that were not from the original basket, that is not 96% of the same people. It is 50% of the same people. Unless TMO had 100 members and 97 left to join forsaken (or some variation of equal proportion), you guys dont know how comparative percentages work.

But what if you take 93 apples from that first basket and put them into the second? What would the percentage be then? Rogean attached a spreadsheet with the raw numbers here.

74 total raiders. Only a single raider from the list came from a guild other than TMO. There were also 4 nulls, some of which were also former TMO members.

arsenalpow · #**363** 06-12-2015, 11:51 AM

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if you try to play Everquest, you're gonna have a bad time

Alarti0001 · #**364** 06-12-2015, 11:51 AM

Marksman when he thought he was getting into Forsaken

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If anyone gave you the tag they'd be almost as dumb as Alarti thinking he is wise.

Also nobody is gonna stick around in that shit it's only legimate officer Detoxx is gone. Anyone who isn't a mega troll or a red99 hopper will be joining Forsaken for the most part. TMO is way beyond repair. Not sure why I'm even responding to you fucking non factor 1.5 year ghost noob.

Marksman when he realized he wouldn't be getting into Forsaken.

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Hell no don't want to join people who don't stand up for their members, treat people like dirt, support trolling like you guys do, and putting a lot of people with absolutely poor social skills into leadership (Gunnter, Dottedup, Yeaboy, , and Portsche the guildbank thief).

Even the good officers don't stand up for their members.

They also only have 1 raid leader Detoxx. Recipe for disaster.

cs616 · #**365** 06-12-2015, 11:54 AM

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But what if you take 93 apples from that first basket and put them into the second? What would the percentage be then? Rogean attached a spreadsheet with the raw numbers here.

74 total raiders. Only a single raider from the list came from a guild other than TMO. There were also 4 nulls, some of which were also former TMO members.

You could say that forsaken is 93% comprised of former TMO members, but that is not the same as saying it is 93% of the same people. 93% of the same people implies that 93% of people who were tagged TMO left to join forsaken, which didnt happen as far as I understand. They are two drastically different statements. 93% of the same people would lend credibility to the claim that they reformed to skirt the rules, 93% comprised of is more indicative of an internal fracture leading to two separate entities. It would be like claiming FE and BDA were the same guild after they split because FE was comprised of a high percentage of former BDA players.

arsenalpow · #**366** 06-12-2015, 11:56 AM

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You could say that forsaken is 93% comprised of former TMO members, but that is not the same as saying it is 93% of the same people. 93% of the same people implies that 93% of people who were tagged TMO left to join forsaken, which didnt happen as far as I understand. They are two drastically different statements. 93% of the same people would lend credibility to the claim that they reformed to skirt the rules, 93% comprised of is more indicative of an internal fracture leading to two separate entities. It would be like claiming FE and BDA were the same guild after they split because FE was comprised of a high percentage of former BDA players.

Except with BDA and FE there was a class tier system that a guild was attempting to circumvent.

Samoht · #**367** 06-12-2015, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cs616 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could say that forsaken is 93% comprised of former TMO members, but that is not the same as saying it is 93% of the same people. 93% of the same people implies that 93% of people who were tagged TMO left to join forsaken, which didnt happen as far as I understand. They are two drastically different statements. 93% of the same people would lend credibility to the claim that they reformed to skirt the rules, 93% comprised of is more indicative of an internal fracture leading to two separate entities. It would be like claiming FE and BDA were the same guild after they split because FE was comprised of a high percentage of former BDA players.

Ok, Alarti jr.

Alarti0001 · #**368** 06-12-2015, 11:57 AM

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You could say that forsaken is 93% comprised of former TMO members, but that is not the same as saying it is 93% of the same people. 93% of the same people implies that 93% of people who were tagged TMO left to join forsaken, which didnt happen as far as I understand. They are two drastically different statements. 93% of the same people would lend credibility to the claim that they reformed to skirt the rules, 93% comprised of is more indicative of an internal fracture leading to two separate entities. It would be like claiming FE and BDA were the same guild after they split because FE was comprised of a high percentage of former BDA players.

Less than 50% of TMO membership left to Forsaken. I made this argument earlier... people just ignored it or deflected it.

arsenalpow · #**369** 06-12-2015, 11:58 AM

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You could say that forsaken is 93% comprised of former TMO members, but that is not the same as saying it is 93% of the same people. 93% of the same people implies that 93% of people who were tagged TMO left to join forsaken, which didnt happen as far as I understand. They are two drastically different statements. 93% of the same people would lend credibility to the claim that they reformed to skirt the rules, 93% comprised of is more indicative of an internal fracture leading to two separate entities. It would be like claiming FE and BDA were the same guild after they split because FE was comprised of a high percentage of former BDA players.

Also there's no longer a TMO on the blue server, the original guild is dead and Forsaken has supplanted it. TMO only cut some folks loose and rearranged some leadership, otherwise it's still the same people. Pretty easy call for Lord Rogean.

Alarti0001 · #**370** 06-12-2015, 11:59 AM

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Also there's no longer a TMO on the blue server, the original guild is dead and Forsaken has supplanted it. TMO only cut some folks loose and rearranged some leadership, otherwise it's still the same people. Pretty easy call for Lord Rogean.

Incorrect TMO still has well over 100 members and are talking about raiding this week.