Stop the Socking - Page 37

Breaken · #1 10-31-2014, 09:30 AM

Mazam,

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Prior to playing on p99 i actually spent a few years playing/raiding with Breaken in a pretty close knit guild.

Yes, we absolutely did.

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Having obviously gone our separate ways since then, on multiple occasions now he's always made it a point to express his distaste for TMO, under the usual claims that our play style ruins the server.

What on earth are you even talking about? I have seen you in game... twice? Once was while tracking Faydedar, where all we talked about was Razzari and Elyda.

I have once told you that I no longer want to spend 8 hours a day raiding on this 15 year old game. That must be what you are referring to.

Erati · #2 10-31-2014, 09:32 AM

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Mazam,

Yes, we absolutely did.

What on earth are you even talking about? I have seen you in game... twice? Once was while tracking Faydedar, where all we talked about was Razzari and Elyda.

I have once told you that I no longer want to spend 8 hours a day raiding on this 15 year old game. That must be what you are referring to.

notice no denial of Fathering COH ducking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] <3 Breaken

Breaken · #3 10-31-2014, 09:33 AM

Oh, I definitely started it. I have no problem admitting it. As Eratani said though, I did it as a joke, and whoever was on Onyxheart at the time got all freaked out, and started doing the same, over and over.

Breaken · #4 10-31-2014, 09:40 AM

I wasn't going to post here, but now I started...

Lazie,

Calling foot races a competition is absurd. It is the same "luck" as cothing. Who will hit that autorun first!? Who will be that millimeter closer (because let's all be honest, there is no way in hell everyone will be 100% on top of each other) so their range attack hits first!?

This will not stop the socking. Even by saying you can only have 3 in the zone, that just means there will be 40 on the other side of the zone. Nice solution.

Daldaen · #5 10-31-2014, 09:57 AM

Ideal case no one will sock on the other side of the zone and if they are, should raid suspend.

I put the 6-man cap to allow someone who arrived just before window or mid window for a camp out to get a quick symbol/hero from a camped cleric and then camp themselves.

The ultimate goal of what I suggested is to get rid of poopsocking with an entire force:

Foot racing allows for this somewhat. CotHing is a quick cast then run back to camp. Foot race is a run to the mob AND back. This allows for more time for people to log in, etc. Which allows you for greater success without poopsocking. That goes for all guilds.

And hopefully after its succes, it will show the devs we can handle ourselves and not sock, to warrant very small variance.

Very small variance is the absolute most crucial end goal here. If there were very small variance that meant we would only be tracking for an hour before spawn or less EVERY mob, WAYYY more guilds would partake in the FFA scene, which will be more fun for everyone competing.

FFA respawns would still provide a better form of competition. But a foot race with small windows can make the competition less neckbeardy and still somewhat of a rush to setup and engages a mob.

arsenalpow · #6 10-31-2014, 10:06 AM

Having fully buffed forces camped out is just another form of socking Daldaen, we moved it from the spawn point, to the zoneline, to the next zone over, to the login screen. It doesn't change anything.

Full FFA repop means you need to mobilize unless you plan on putting fully buffed raid forces at 9 world spawn locations (Seb, KC, EJ, Skyfire, TD, Feerott, Perma, WC, SolB)

Ella`Ella · #7 10-31-2014, 10:08 AM

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Full FFA repop means you need to mobilize unless you plan on putting fully buffed raid forces at 9 world spawn locations (Seb, KC, EJ, Skyfire, TD, Feerott, Perma, WC, SolB)

Which IB and TMO are capable of doing this for several spawns locations each per guild. How does your plan curb this?

arsenalpow · #8 10-31-2014, 10:10 AM

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Which IB and TMO are capable of doing this for several spawns locations each per guild. How does your plan curb this?

Well a bag limit helps. I think the 2 kill bag limit has been one of the successful points of the current system.

HeallunRumblebelly · #9 10-31-2014, 10:11 AM

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Well a bag limit helps. I think the 2 kill bag limit has been one of the successful points of the current system.

That doesn't sound very ffa :3

Erati · #10 10-31-2014, 10:13 AM

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Having fully buffed forces camped out is just another form of socking Daldaen, we moved it from the spawn point, to the zoneline, to the next zone over, to the login screen. It doesn't change anything.

Full FFA repop means you need to mobilize unless you plan on putting fully buffed raid forces at 9 world spawn locations (Seb, KC, EJ, Skyfire, TD, Feerott, Perma, WC, SolB)

people dont want to stop socking, they just want a different version of FFA

your vision is not only a different version of FFA but it ends socking all together, its beautiful really