So how about that Zimmerman trial?

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Malice_Mizer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good thing the definitely not-racist Sanford Police Department drug tested the dead body of Trayvon Martin but didn't bother asking a thing of the ZimZam. He could have been on PCP for all we know. That would actually shed a lot of light on this case.

They also failed to get Spengler and Venkman to come down with Tobin's Spirit Guide and a PKE meter to check for class VII wandering possessors.

[Daldolma]

basically the issue is that you're seeing systemic inequality and calling it systemic racism without proving the latter. inequality isn't inherently racist. when the study in question is showing black sellers in black neighborhoods charging black buyers the same premium as white sellers in white neighborhoods, it should be clear that the seller's prejudices aren't a major factor. that leaves the buyer or some overarching controlling entity as the responsible party. you're claiming overarching control, but from whom? the study controls for access to loans, so it's not the banks. you're laughing at splorf's "invisible hand" of the free market while positing an "invisible hand" of racism.

[Hasbinbad]

Things racists say, given that the context of the statement is modern era USA:

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

basically the issue is that you're seeing systemic inequality and calling it systemic racism without proving the latter. inequality isn't inherently racist.

[Barkingturtle]

There's an argument to be made that Zimmerman really did Martin a favor by saving him 3% on the cost of his future home.

[Malice_Mizer]

If it were a white woman, Florida would do some legal acrobatics and this would be a trial of Trayvon Martin in absentia for the assault and attempted rape of Lady Zimmerman. They would then collectively quarter, behead, and burn Martin in effigy.

That's just the way it is.

[TarukShmaruk]

Originally Posted by Malice_Mizer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it were a white woman, Florida would do some legal acrobatics and this would be a trial of Trayvon Martin in absentia for the assault and attempted rape of Lady Zimmerman. They would then collectively quarter, behead, and burn Martin in effigy.

That's just the way it is.

Actually if this were anything but white v black (which it actually isn't but you can thank the media for this representation - the leftwing media, actually) we would have never even heard about it.

Would it be unreasonable to believe that white home buyers have better education and "a more robust family history of home owners" because people of color have been discriminated against in this country for hundreds of years? To the point to where they were forbiden to but homes in certain areas if permited to at all?

This falls apart when you look at asians and africans who are both immigrants and tend to do much better here than our homegrown black americans.

[stonez138]

buy*

[Kagatob]

People getting their panties in a bunch over fucking 3%. Give me a break.

[Alawen]

There are multiple studies that show active racism in the real estate industry. There are multiple judgments against prejudicial lenders. My patience, however, is exhausted and I'm going to focus on research and writing for people who, you know, pay me.

[Daldolma]

i can't speak to those studies, i haven't familiarized myself with them. from reading the abstract of the study you originally referenced, no active racism or prejudicial lending was found. what was found was an unexplained 3% premium on transactions in all markets, which did NOT correspond with any prejudice exhibited by the sellers or property markets. lending was controlled so as to eliminate access to loans as a variable entirely.

i find your exasperation unwarranted. you initiated the conversation and emphasized the particular study in question. it's not disproving racism in the real estate market, so there's no reason to grow defensive. it simply isn't proving it. the duke study seems to invite questions as to what hurdles minorities face in achieving an even playing field in the real estate market. but it doesn't prove or even necessarily suggest racism as one of those hurdles

perhaps other studies are more enlightening re: racism