Vesica Dei: Cant Kill a VP Dragon? Constantly Ruin other guilds attempts - Page 36

Shiftin · #**351** 03-03-2012, 04:26 AM

You are conflating two entirely different issues.

When no one is on the hate list, as in the case of the talendor pull, because the only person from TMO who had aggrod the dragon (Drolgurd) was charmed, the encounter logs reset.

When you are charmed, you are removed from the encounter list assuming you were the only person still aggroing hoshkar (which is what is happening in my second log). I log into hoshkar at VP zone in eating a final 3 people who trained him there, get charmed, and hoshkar starts pathing back with me in tow until charm breaks. At which point, i can get a hide off because i am not on the encounter list of a *disengaged mob*.

Thanks for proving my point by trying to take a shot at my DPS? Try again, troll.

Uthagain · #**352** 03-03-2012, 04:29 AM

When your charm breaks, you aren't on the hate list. Your hide message doesn't mean shit about anyone else, and no amount of derping around those logs is going to imply anything to the contrary. Thought you were going to bed pal?

Diggles · #**353** 03-03-2012, 04:29 AM

shiftin is awful

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Diggles · #**354** 03-03-2012, 04:30 AM

KEEP GOING I NEED ENTERTAINMENT WHILE SCANNING FOR MISSIONRUNNERS DAMN IT.

Alarti0001 · #**355** 03-03-2012, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are conflating two entirely different issues.

When no one is on the hate list, as in the case of the talendor pull, because the only person from TMO who had aggrod the dragon (Drolgurd) was charmed, the encounter logs reset.

When you are charmed, you are removed from the encounter list assuming you were the only person still aggroing hoshkar (which is what is happening in my second log). I log into hoshkar at VP zone in eating a final 3 people who trained him there, get charmed, and hoshkar starts pathing back with me in tow until charm breaks. At which point, i can get a hide off because i am not on the encounter list of a *disengaged mob*.

Thanks for proving my point by trying to take a shot at my DPS? Try again, troll.

1. if you post a log don't edit 6 minutes out of it.
2. we had multiple people on that pull. we had both aggros and all supremacy got was prox dmg from an aoe(area of effect) in case you are confused(which seems likely)

Shiftin · #**356** 03-03-2012, 04:37 AM

1. The full log is available by clicking the link to the original post, i edited it for brevity since apparently reading is hard for you.
2. Getting hit by an AE of a mob that you aren't already on the aggro list for does not add you to the aggro list. If you really need proof of that i can go through logs to find it as well. Do you really not know anything about this game's mechanics?

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When your charm breaks, you aren't on the hate list. Your hide message doesn't mean shit about anyone else, and no amount of derping around those logs is going to imply anything to the contrary. Thought you were going to bed pal?

Again, you are 100% proving what i'm saying. When Drolgurd was charmed, and the charm on him broke, he wasn't on the hate list. Since he was the only person who was on the hate list, Talendor was in seek mode. Therefore, we tagged him because he was not engaged. This caused the re-aggro message I very clearly pointed out as only happening on a fresh engage.

Thanks, but I didn't need the assist.

Uthagain · #**357** 03-03-2012, 04:38 AM

Oh that reminds me. Did you ever learn how to backstab for more than 150?

Alarti0001 · #**358** 03-03-2012, 04:39 AM

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1. The full log is available by clicking the link to the original post, i edited it for brevity since apparently reading is hard for you.
2. Getting hit by an AE of a mob that you aren't already on the aggro list for does not add you to the aggro list. If you really need proof of that i can go through logs to find it as well. Do you really not know anything about this game's mechanics?

Again, you are 100% proving what i'm saying. When Drolgurd was charmed, and the charm on him broke, he wasn't on the hate list. Since he was the only person who was on the hate list, Talendor was in seek mode. Therefore, we tagged him because he was not engaged. This caused the re-aggro message I very clearly pointed out as only happening on a fresh engage.

Thanks, but I didn't need the assist.

If you are trying to PROVE a point PROOF is usually helpful... come back when you have something worthwhile

Diggles · #**359** 03-03-2012, 04:40 AM

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Lazortag · #**360** 03-03-2012, 04:47 AM

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2. Getting hit by an AE of a mob that you aren't already on the aggro list for does not add you to the aggro list. If you really need proof of that i can go through logs to find it as well. ...

I'm not taking sides or anything but what Shiftin says is true. I was once on Nalkin's bard who was apprehensive to Gorenaire, and while following her around someone tried to pull her and I got hit by one of her ae's, but when the puller died I never got aggro. So being hit by an NPC's ae does not make the NPC aggro you. I can see why this can cause confusion though since before this happened I thought the same thing.