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Old 11-21-2011, 08:55 PM
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show me what democracy looks like
Greece.
A republic is the ideal form of government.
If everyone was really educated or had a backbone we wouldn't be dealing with this tyranny of the ruling class, fuck.
Laugh at occupy all you want, but hear this warning, when they take your internet away, or other things you want, and you go to protest that will be your fate. Or we can push to imprison the police(state thugs) who mace your fellow citizens for gathering, which is our right.
Support occupy, otherwise the police state will grow to outrageous levels (which it already is in some peoples minds.) The European riots will come here, but we have guns and explosives.
Laugh, mock, whatever. But if you support the oppression of your equals that will be you.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:58 PM
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:10 PM
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Greece.
A republic is the ideal form of government.
If everyone was really educated or had a backbone we wouldn't be dealing with this tyranny of the ruling class, fuck.
Laugh at occupy all you want, but hear this warning, when they take your internet away, or other things you want, and you go to protest that will be your fate. Or we can push to imprison the police(state thugs) who mace your fellow citizens for gathering, which is our right.
Support occupy, otherwise the police state will grow to outrageous levels (which it already is in some peoples minds.) The European riots will come here, but we have guns and explosives.
Laugh, mock, whatever. But if you support the oppression of your equals that will be you.
The people who laugh/mock/whatever will start to get their own rude awakening over the next few years. For those of us who are already educated to the state of things globally and here at home in the US, most have already begun protecting themselves for the coming crisis.

An interesting chart - http://xkcd.com/980/huge/#x=-8392&y=-5648&z=3

An interesting fact - in 2009 the Credit Default Swap market (analogous to an individual purchasing insurance on his neighbors home) was valued at $31.5T, current US GDP is $14.5T (which is about to be passed by US Debt, frightening) and current global GDP is $63T.

If you don't find anything completely terrifying in the fact that the market for the most dangerous financial instrument conceived is worth half of global GDP, and that protesting against a current system that promotes that kind of harmful risk taking - aka the growing Occupy protests - is dumb then you've got a world of pain coming your way.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:01 PM
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Without a doubt unlawful protest and violence is the only way. There are no peaceable ways to achieve change. Empower the movement brother!
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:04 PM
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Without a doubt unlawful protest and violence is the only way. There are no peaceable ways to achieve change. Empower the movement brother!
You're already thinking about things in the wrong way. The 'laws' that deem what the protesters are doing as 'wrong' are what is infact wrong. If you support the 'laws' of a broken system than you already don't understand what's coming or what's happening. Good luck!

PS - The boston teaparty was against the law, and yet its heralded as a landmark movement in American history, food for thought.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:12 PM
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Without a doubt unlawful protest and violence is the only way. There are no peaceable ways to achieve change. Empower the movement brother!
Also sidenote, while you're cynical jab of a statement was teeming with sarcasm, it also contained - whether to your knowledge or not - an undertone of truth and a valid argument. Can true change be achieved through peaceable means? I'd argue no, and that true change can only be enacted through escalation. History seems to be presenting us with this truth daily as we're bearing witness to the Arab spring. Tyrannical rule and deprivation of rights was brought down by the violent rebellions in Egypt and Libya. While in America we like to believe in peaceful protest based on our history of civil disobedience against the broken system of segregation, we have another broken system to contend with in the monstrosity that our government has become.

So I do agree with you vaylorie, where peaceful protest fails, only violence, as an unfortunate means to an end, will really bring about the downfall of our current broken system and allowed for a rebirth of what America was actually founded upon.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:32 PM
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i follow every law by the book i have literally no brain
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:39 PM
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Amen brother. You are right to compare the plight of the American person to the oppression of those in Egypt and Libya. We should live in a world where laws don't exist and each man lives and takes as he sees fit. Fight the good fight my brother!
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:51 PM
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ah yes if u question any law then u must be an advocate for a lawless society, bravo sir

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Old 11-21-2011, 11:56 PM
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I agree pico! As I said, we should only follow and abide by the laws that we agree with. The inevitable conclusion of which is each man living and taking as he sees fit in a world in which any law inherently has no value. You guys are on a role tonight! Where can I sign up?
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