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Old 11-03-2023, 07:09 PM
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Botten you do not support Peace. You support Free Palestine. You are Two-Faced.

To immature to understand.
I support peace between Israeli and the Palestinians.
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Old 11-03-2023, 07:16 PM
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Israel is at War with Hamas. Why? Do they, Israel, have the right to defend themself?

On Oct 7 a terrible event happened in Israel. Do you condemn the organization that sparked the sequence of events the world is tragically watching happen in Gaza/Israel currently?

Why do you support Hamas an organization that has never democratically had over 50% of Gazans support and has not allowed elections in Gaza since 2006 thereby ruling Gaza as a dictatorship?

What are your terms of Peace with a terrorist organization Hamas willing to rape its geographic neighbors citizens and abduct their young children?

What is Israel to do about it's 200 citizens that are currently hostage in Gaza?

This was a nation-state war-scale level attack from a neighboring jihadist organization that killed over 1400 Israelis. How is Israel to prevent the largest attack against Jews since WW2 from ever occurring again?

You don't want Peace Botten. This is above your pay grade. You are anti-semitic.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:28 PM
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Israel is at War with Hamas. Why? Do they, Israel, have the right to defend themself?

On Oct 7 a terrible event happened in Israel. Do you condemn the organization that sparked the sequence of events the world is tragically watching happen in Gaza/Israel currently?

Why do you support Hamas an organization that has never democratically had over 50% of Gazans support and has not allowed elections in Gaza since 2006 thereby ruling Gaza as a dictatorship?

What are your terms of Peace with a terrorist organization Hamas willing to rape its geographic neighbors citizens and abduct their young children?

What is Israel to do about it's 200 citizens that are currently hostage in Gaza?

This was a nation-state war-scale level attack from a neighboring jihadist organization that killed over 1400 Israelis. How is Israel to prevent the largest attack against Jews since WW2 from ever occurring again?

You don't want Peace Botten. This is above your pay grade. You are anti-semitic.
Nooooo they literally raped and beheaded 40 gorillion babies. Don't ask us for proof though, it's too gruesome to show, but trust us on this one. What's that you say? Palestinians have no issue posting actual dead babies killed by us? Obviously photoshopped, you anti-semite.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:34 PM
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Israel is at War with Hamas. Why? Do they, Israel, have the right to defend themself?

On Oct 7 a terrible event happened in Israel. Do you condemn the organization that sparked the sequence of events the world is tragically watching happen in Gaza/Israel currently?

Why do you support Hamas an organization that has never democratically had over 50% of Gazans support and has not allowed elections in Gaza since 2006 thereby ruling Gaza as a dictatorship?

What are your terms of Peace with a terrorist organization Hamas willing to rape its geographic neighbors citizens and abduct their young children?

What is Israel to do about it's 200 citizens that are currently hostage in Gaza?

This was a nation-state war-scale level attack from a neighboring jihadist organization that killed over 1400 Israelis. How is Israel to prevent the largest attack against Jews since WW2 from ever occurring again?

You don't want Peace Botten. This is above your pay grade. You are anti-semitic.
Anyone who doesn’t say the conflict between the two side is difficult is not respecting the hardships both sides have had to deal with in the past.

My terms of peace starts with talking, showing humility on both sides and a slow (very slow) blending of both groups.

The issue is not just local anymore.

Think about it. If Israel pushes supporting members of Hama into attacking from Egypt what is the next step then? Egypt is friendly towards Israel now but this can easily change.

Members of Egypt’s population already helps Hamas now. Is it too far of a stretch that more of this type of support could happen after the anguish the Palestinians have received.

I know Egypt is part of the NPT. But I also know they have some of the most advanced nuclear technology of most Arab nations. I also know their scientists boast they have been trained in the extraction of plutonium since the 1980s.

Some say Iran’s nuclear technology isn’t anything to be worried about but they have enough refined uranium for a dirty bomb.

And it is suspected Russia had some influence in this war. By stoking the flames of war instead of peace how much will Ukraine suffer? If Russia has seen favorable results will they secretly stoke the flames further?

Turkey is poised but for how long?

Hisbah has 100s of thousands of fighters and a lot more rockets the Iron Dome can not easily handle.

Kuwait deal of a life time has again been trashed over Israel.

And if Iran sees other Arab nations joining to attack Israel they are going to jump in.

Americans are sick of fighting in other countries. If enough of the world gets involved we don’t have the planes or the ground troops to support a potential new world war.

Lastly, the Jews have faced a terrible event in the past that killed most of their population. It is only considerate if they now think of another group about to suffer something similar.

Everyday this war continues runs the risk for problems.

So yes, I am for peace and so should others.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:37 PM
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Nooooo they literally raped and beheaded 40 gorillion babies. Don't ask us for proof though, it's too gruesome to show, but trust us on this one. What's that you say? Palestinians have no issue posting actual dead babies killed by us? Obviously photoshopped, you anti-semite.
So you support Hamas as well? Are you capable of condemning the organization Hamas that caused this mess with a terrorist attack on October 7? If not you have zero moral standing on this matter.

If you haven't seen the pictures that Hamas took themselves and posted all over the internet on October 7, go look them up. They are still up all over the internet. If you think they were too gruesome to be shown that is only mainstream media and indicates that you don't have good internet skills.

Israel has a right to defend itself in the same way that America does if USA was attacked. Israel is engaged in western style military engagement. Hamas condoned a terrorist attack involving rape and child abduction. Facts are facts.

You don't care about the people of Gaza unless you are capable of condemning Hamas. You are anti-semitic against both the people of Israel and the people of Gaza.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:41 PM
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Anyone who doesn’t say the conflict between the two side is difficult is not respecting the hardships both sides have had to deal with in the past.

My terms of peace starts with talking, showing humility on both sides and a slow (very slow) blending of both groups.

The issue is not just local anymore.

Think about it. If Israel pushes supporting members of Hama into attacking from Egypt what is the next step then? Egypt is friendly towards Israel now but this can easily change.

Members of Egypt’s population already helps Hamas now. Is it too far of a stretch that more of this type of support could happen after the anguish the Palestinians have received.

I know Egypt is part of the NPT. But I also know they have some of the most advanced nuclear technology of most Arab nations. I also know their scientists boast they have been trained in the extraction of plutonium since the 1980s.

Some say Iran’s nuclear technology isn’t anything to be worried about but they have enough refined uranium for a dirty bomb.

And it is suspected Russia had some influence in this war. By stoking the flames of war instead of peace how much will Ukraine suffer? If Russia has seen favorable results will they secretly stoke the flames further?

Turkey is poised but for how long?

Hisbah has 100s of thousands of fighters and a lot more rockets the Iron Dome can not easily handle.

Kuwait deal of a life time has again been trashed over Israel.

And if Iran sees other Arab nations joining to attack Israel they are going to jump in.

American are sick of fight in other countries. If enough of the world gets involved we don’t have the planes or the ground troops to support a potential new world war.

Lastly, the Jews have faced a terrible event in the past that killed most of their population. It is only considerate if they now think of another group about to suffer something similar.

Everyday this war continues runs the risk for problems.

So yes, I am for peace and so should others.
You don't understand USA military capabilities. You don't understand Israel's military capabilities. You don't understand the lack of cohesion that exists in the Arab world. You don't understand Saudi's desire to resume normal relations in the Middle East to go ahead with prior deal with Israel.

This is way out of your league of understanding. Stand back and watch history happen. History you are on the wrong side of.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:51 PM
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And if Iran sees other Arab nations joining to attack Israel they are going to jump in.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:56 PM
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'Civilian hospitals organized to give care to the wounded and sick, the infirm and maternity cases, may in no circumstances be the object of attack, but shall at all times be respected and protected by the Parties to the conflict.

States which are Parties to a conflict shall provide all civilian hospitals with certificates showing that they are civilian hospitals and that the buildings which they occupy are not used for any purpose which would deprive these hospitals of protection in accordance with Article 19"

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Seems like the Geneva Convention is against using Hospitals as military bases? I wonder how they feel about using schools or mosques as military bases?
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:59 PM
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Nooooo they literally raped and beheaded 40 gorillion babies. Don't ask us for proof though, it's too gruesome to show, but trust us on this one. What's that you say? Palestinians have no issue posting actual dead babies killed by us? Obviously photoshopped, you anti-semite.
Alex Jones claimed the Sandy Hook shooting was fake because there were no pics of dead kids. Look how that turned out for him

I'm assuming Israel has shown the proof to the parties that matter (like allied government), and Joe Schmo in his computer chair might not be one of those
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Old 11-03-2023, 09:00 PM
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What has Hamas not produced? A single pic of a dead combatant. Every dead is a civilian, isn't that interesting
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