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Old 10-05-2022, 12:16 PM
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Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination.

I will dumb it down for you. Think for a minute Baler. If masks are used to prevent future infections that could occur during a sterile surgery do you think masks are a good idea when trying to prevent infection? Thanks for showing how bad you discuss anything. Ben Shapiro really did a number on brain washing you.
That sounds great if true!

Still doesn't address the question of long term side effects, which can't possibly be known until the covid vaccines have existed in the long term. We currently have about *one* year of good data on them at scale. It's scientifically incoherent to declare they are safe. At best you can say "They seem to be safe, so far", which is fine. But the disease they are supposed to prevent is also not very dangerous. Yes people have died from it, just as people die from the flu, and I still just want to know how many masks you wore in 1998 for the flu season? Just to check and see if this is politically motivated, ya know?
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:17 PM
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That sounds great if true!

Still doesn't address the question of long term side effects, which can't possibly be known until the covid vaccines have existed in the long term. We currently have about *one* year of good data on them at scale. It's scientifically incoherent to declare they are safe. At best you can say "They seem to be safe, so far", which is fine. But the disease they are supposed to prevent is also not very dangerous. Yes people have died from it, just as people die from the flu, and I still just want to know how many masks you wore in 1998 for the flu season? Just to check and see if this is politically motivated, ya know?
How many is that in rat years? We are giant rats.
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:18 PM
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From shampooing carpet I was told back then.
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Our proposed etiologic framework incorporates the 1) proportion of population that are genetically susceptible; 2) modulation of risk, determined by habitual exposure to environmental allergens, seasonal variations of atmospheric biological particles and contact with infectious diseases; and 3) exposure to the putative trigger. Future modelling of individual risk and global distribution will be strengthened by taking into consideration all of these non-traditional elements.
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:18 PM
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Thought to be autoimmune from viral infections. Covid causes a form of it called MISC

I think the literature does say Covid vaccines cause myocarditis in males at something like 7/100,000 doses

No idea what risk is higher, that or MISC or all the other side effects of getting Covid itself. /shrug
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:25 PM
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Future modelling of individual risk and global distribution will be strengthened by taking into consideration all of these non-traditional elements.
Further studies will add relevance to the " Out there " theory of mice taking the cookies from the jar.

So far, we still think its robots that use cookies for fuel and turn into dust in the sunlight.
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:28 PM
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Thought to be autoimmune from viral infections. Covid causes a form of it called MISC

I think the literature does say Covid vaccines cause myocarditis in males at something like 7/100,000 doses

No idea what risk is higher, that or MISC or all the other side effects of getting Covid itself. /shrug
That's the whole issue here really, covid and the covid vaccines are both a flash in the pan timeline wise. What most people are concerned with is the sort of lazy, unquestioning certainty with which the vaccines are pushed.

And again, their favorite mantra is "follow the science", and then a dude who holds patents on mrna tech (meaning he's probably a good scientist) has reservations about the the hasty deployment of the covid vaccines and gets banned from every imaginable platform overnight. The idea any of this is "scientific" is absurd.

I mean, risk of death from covid plummets rapidly in direct correlation to youth; the younger you are, the less risk it poses. Yet they recommend the vaccine for like 6 month old babies now. That, itself, is wildly unscientific. It's more like how apple keeps encouraging you to buy a new iphone even though you don't need one than anything resembling public health.
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:39 PM
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:49 PM
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If someone as stupid as Botten was involved in developing the jab no wonder so many folks are dropping like flies after being injected
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Old 10-05-2022, 12:58 PM
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Please try to have at least a little less celebration in your tone when talking about the deaths of your fellow Americans

Some of us around here like our fellow Americans
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