Catherins attempt at lawyering

[Lazie]

CT and Trak would have still been a struggle for them though I can give you that. But the kill count per week would have been close if they same amount of guilds that try for FFA mobs now tried for mobs before with the shorter windows. Because in essence that is all the FFA cycle now is...The raiding system we had before with shorter windows.

[Cecily]

That's just so mean.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Lazie

The Class C/R/FFA cycle helps, but honestly the things that made the biggest difference for guilds killing more than they did before was the shortening of windows and the repops.

The C/R/FFA cycle guarantees the R guilds 1/3 of total targets. For your statement to be true, the shortening of windows and repops would have to result in the R guilds killing >1/3 of total targets, which is impossible.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The C/R/FFA cycle guarantees the R guilds 1/3 of total targets. For your statement to be true, the shortening of windows and repops would have to result in the R guilds killing >1/3 of total targets, which is impossible.

Not even remotely true. What I said was IF the windows had been 16 hours before guilds that spent a lot of time on 1 target a week could spend time on maybe a 2 a week. Guilds that attempted no targets a week would have likely been more prone to attempting 1 target a week as they are on the FFA cycle now. They would have come close to that 33% success rate once they spent time and focused on learning how to approach those targets. They don't have to kill 33% of the targets to make the systems the same in productivity because that was never my argument.

Again the biggest difference was the reduction in windows and repops. They may not have gotten 33% over time with reduced windows and repops but they would have gotten 25% or more over time.That is why that was the biggest change.

[Duckwalk]

1/3 of targets is still pathetic. All Kunark and Old World should be rotation. Let Velious be FFA for the first year then rotate it also.

Sorry you might have to wait on that epic piece on your 4th alt you firegiant.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1/3 of targets is still pathetic. All Kunark and Old World should be rotation. Let Velious be FFA for the first year then rotate it also.

Sorry you might have to wait on that epic piece on your 4th alt you firegiant.

Casual guilds have been pushing for that, and the hardcore guilds are absolutely against it. The only way a full rotation will be put into effect is staff intervention and that will be last straw for ALOT of people who remain here.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Casual guilds have been pushing for that, and the hardcore guilds are absolutely against it. The only way a full rotation will be put into effect is staff intervention and that will be last straw for ALOT of people who remain here.

Haha the last straw for the people that have exploited the server for the last 3 years? What a shame

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha the last straw for the people that have exploited the server for the last 3 years? What a shame

I know right? Good riddance. But I mean we probably wouldn't mind losing the casuals either.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know right? Good riddance. But I mean we probably wouldn't mind losing the casuals either.

Enjoy farming heiro with Jeremy and Alarti.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Casual guilds have been pushing for that, and the hardcore guilds are absolutely against it. The only way a full rotation will be put into effect is staff intervention and that will be last straw for ALOT of people who remain here.

We know from experience that when TMO can't raid, instead of quitting you guys AFK at the spore king constantly. Pixel addicts don't quit.

Also I don't see where these casual guilds are pushing for a full rotation, the proposed R/C + FFA repops would result in fewer mobs on the R rotation than before. The staff would never enforce a rotation anyway; what's the point of owning an anthill if the ants never riot?

I keep forgetting that RNF exists in some sort of fantasyland where logic and reason do not apply and success is governed by the number of 'rustled' gifs one can post.