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Old 04-20-2014, 07:25 PM
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Honest question here: Are there any conspiracy theories regarding UFOs/aliens you don't believe in?
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:29 PM
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Honest question here: Are there any conspiracy theories regarding UFOs/aliens you don't believe in?
Honest answer: I never said I believed in any conspiracy theories regarding UFOs/aliens.

What I've been saying all along, is that I find this content intriguing, and would like to hear from other people who may be interested as well. Whether the replies are positive or negative, is ultimately irrelevant, long as they're serious and not trolling. I do plenty of research on a topic before I bring it up for discussion, such as this thread's original subject.

Although sometimes it seems a bit much to ask of some people to watch a short video or two, before jumping to conclusions. If you disagree with the content, even after watching the videos presented here, and doing your own research on the matter, I'd want to hear your opnions & conclusions!

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Some funnies (but true) from urbandictionary.com:

Conspiracy Theory:

1) Designation assigned by corporate media to any idea divergent of government script.

2) Results from careful and unbiased analysis of the facts and circumstances surrounding a high profile event, proving an agenda is/was in motion.

3) Two words which are uttered whenever anyone is getting too close to the truth

4) A term debunkers use to refer to anything that is impossible for them to accept no matter what irrefutable evidence is presented. To these people the term is synonymous with fraud, lies and is even dangerous to consider other than for the purpose of debunking or to give oneself an imagined sense of superiority to those gullible enough to fall for such outrageous falsehoods.

....and last but not least:

5) A label that can be affixed to any argument or point that one doesn't like, to avoid having to provide a valid response to it. Much like "that's just your opinion", "I don't actually care" and "I was joking", this card is frequently played by the debater who has been outwitted and defeated, but thinks if he doesn't directly admit it, he still might be seen as the overall winner. This remains a powerful tactic though, due to the extremely negative connotation of the term "conspiracy theory", given to it by people who think it's impossible that anyone would ever do something that's not good for us then cover it up, so insisting something is a conspiracy theory is still an alarmingly effective way of getting people to side with the person without a point, regardless of how little sense calling it a conspiracy theory actually makes. Remember, labels are powerful things and can easily affect what people perceive something as actually being.
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:47 AM
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Reserving next post for Peggy Kane & Alex Collier; the first being a Reptilian contactee via reverse EVP (electronic voice phenomenon), and the second being a direct contactee with benevolent humanoid beings from the Andromeda Galaxy. I'll also present some info on Billy Meier, a direct contactee with the Pleiadians.

Alex Collier wrote 'Defending Sacred Ground – The Andromedan Compendium' and published it for free in 1996. - http://www.alexcollier.org/alex-coll...d-ground-1996/ - available for DL in PDF format.
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:31 AM
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I kind of have the same attitude towards all of this. I don't believe in it, per se. I accept that some other people do and its worth looking into it further. If it gets proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in the future, it wouldn't surprise me and it wouldn't shake my foundation like it may for many of the big religions of the world.

In the end though, if nothing else, its fantastic entertainment.
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:44 AM
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Reserving next post for Peggy Kane & Alex Collier; the first being a Reptilian contactee via reverse EVP (electronic voice phenomenon), and the second being a direct contactee with benevolent humanoid beings from the Andromeda Galaxy. I'll also present some info on Billy Meier, a direct contactee with the Pleiadians.

Alex Collier wrote 'Defending Sacred Ground – The Andromedan Compendium' and published it for free in 1996. - http://www.alexcollier.org/alex-coll...d-ground-1996/ - available for DL in PDF format.
The only issue I have with Billy Meier's story is that the aliens that contacted him said that they were the only ones to contact Earthlings. To me, this either throws his entire story into question or if true, would mean that everything else that has been experienced is either a hallucination or some government ploy or drone, etc. At that point, you could also argue about multiple dimensions and how some people perceive some and not others. It gets fuzzy.

I'm not sure if you already brought this up, but I've always found Stanley Arthur Fulham's story pretty interesting, he's that one that predicted the UFO hovering in some major cities back on August 13, 2010. He believes that sometime in 2015 the most human looking race of aliens will confront the UN, essentially coming out of the closet. The reason for doing this is because "humans are near their technological limit for stopping climate change". The Grey aliens have technology to do this without an issue.

https://sites.google.com/site/challe.../full-articles
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:32 AM
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Because a lot of people have trouble accepting the fact that we're in the thick of the excitement already. Life tends to be mostly fucking boring, and some people feel the urge to blow their own minds by creating theories about off the wall shit. CIA=towers though. Any literate person has access to irrefutable evidence, they just can't accept that their government is actually the global bad guy.
Indeed. Doesn't help that the propagators of these theories are nothing but a bunch of attention whores.
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Old 04-23-2014, 01:54 AM
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Before I go further into the Reversed EVP territory, I'll present some basic examples, so as to introduce the subject itself to those of you who've never heard of it before.

First Example:

Obama's "Yes We Can" chant, in reverse. I'll provide up to 3 videos for each example.

1) Yes We Can Backwards Obama speech

2) Me saying "Yes We Can" backwards. Freaky, man.

3) Obama - Yes We Can

Note: This isn't audio manipulation (like photoshop for images), if you're having doubts about what you're hearing, there's a very easy way to verify this. Simply record your own voice saying the exact same phrase being said in the videos, then play the recording backwards.
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:45 AM
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Hidden messages in reversed audio I can't get behind.

We have a limited number of sounds available that we can make. Of course reversing audio is going to sound like other phrases and its just a coincidence that it turned out like this for Obama's catchphrase.

In the end, what would be the point of putting a message in his or anyone else's speech? You don't need to. If you worship Satan, then you pray to him and thank him in private. There's no need for messages like this.

Subliminal messages I can understand. I just don't get the whole fascination with reversed audio. No one can perceive that when its spoken. Its only recording technology available within the past 100 years that allows us to even come up with this theory.
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Hidden messages in reversed audio I can't get behind.

We have a limited number of sounds available that we can make. Of course reversing audio is going to sound like other phrases and its just a coincidence that it turned out like this for Obama's catchphrase.

In the end, what would be the point of putting a message in his or anyone else's speech? You don't need to. If you worship Satan, then you pray to him and thank him in private. There's no need for messages like this.

Subliminal messages I can understand. I just don't get the whole fascination with reversed audio. No one can perceive that when its spoken. Its only recording technology available within the past 100 years that allows us to even come up with this theory.
See, if this was limited to a few random occurances, I would agree, but it's not. I only used this as the most basic of examples. There are literally thousands of such recordings, and when trying to reverse a human voice, sometimes there is a whole other message behind it, having something to do with our subconscious.

When Peggy Kane was interacting with the 4th Dimensional Reptoids, using various digital recorders, they would speak with a normal human voice. However, over time she had realized she was being deceived, and when she'd start reversing their recordings, she'd get what they were really saying. In fact, one of the ways she came to this conclusion, was when she reversed her own voice recording, and her own subconscious was telling her she was being deceived.

Also, most EVP recordings she's obtained, were recorded in some places where there aren't any people around whatsoever. These beings in the 4th dimension, need some type of background noise to use as a medium, to be able to communicate to our dimension.

The first example she presented in a video interview I'll post below, she recorded a Reptoid hybrid at a wedding, prince whats his face in England. While he was talking all normal like in a regular recording, when reversed, the message that came back said "Yea, I'm a wolf, Peg, but who would believe it?"

For those who don't get what that means, this being a reference to a "wolf in sheep's clothing." Or to be more precise, a Reptoid looking like a human, and no one around even suspects it.

This video is very in-depth about the subject of 4th Dimensional Reptilians; it goes into detail not just on reverse EVP recordings, but also about what's really going on in the 4th Dimension itself. She's been in communication with people living there, who describe one hell of a world, where the Reptoids live out in the open and are the top of the food chain, and feed on humans.

It's a very interesting interview, done on April 30, 2006. Even if you think its bogus at first - give it the benefit of the doubt, watch it anyway before you come to a conclusion!

UFO Hypotheses - Peggy Kane Volume One (01 of 24) - 5min per chapter, roughly 2 hrs total

UFO Hypotheses - Peggy Kane Volume Two (01 of 24) - 5min per chapter, roughly 2 hrs total

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In the first-ever DVD of the "UFO Hypotheses" series, UFO researcher and talk show host Peggy Kane discusses her odyssey into the strange realms of EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena) and RS (Reverse Speech), which led her into ongoing conversations with the dead now residing in the lower astral world.
These hypotheses are actually compilations of testimones from other ET contactees too, like Alex Collier. Very interesting stuff!
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Next, I'll be posting some solid info on Area 51, and more specifically, it's underground D.U.M.B. (Deep Underground Military Base) counter-part, known as S4.

Rick Keefe, the same person who was carrying out the UFO Hypotheses interviews (in my previous post) on the 4th Dimensional Reptilians & the lower Astral plane they inhabit & control, with Peggy Kane, as well as interviews on the Reptilians and Andromedans, with Alex Collier, which I've posted before (I'll make a new post with more detailed info on the matter.) Rick Keefe's next series of interviews are titled "UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers," volumes 1-3.

The sources being interviewed are all high-rank ex-military personnel, one of which was part of the security detail in the S4 facility itself, guarding the 'underground hangar level' which housed 9 E.T. crafts.

The interviews go into in-depth details on everything from the approximate location of the base and how personnel are transferred to and from the base, to the security measures they go to - to prevent any information from being leaked out, and describing the E.T. crafts in detail.

It was only after the security guard's life was threatened, and the failed attempts on his life, that he decided to contact the other ex-servicemen being interviewed, one of whom is Robert Dean, to try to get this information out into the open through reliable channels.

These interviews, are easily among the best I've ever come across on the subject of UFO craft, and the US government's involvement in their capture, as well as reverse-engineering of said UFO craft.

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The long-awaited release of the 1991 "Connor O'Ryan" testimony. Featuring Wendelle C. Stevens, Robert O. Dean, Gem Cox and many others. We let you know it all...
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One, 16 chapters, 10min each, 2h17m total

UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two, 12 chapters, 10min each, 1h52m total

UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three, 18 chapters, 10min each, 2h28m total

Enjoy!
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