OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are a riot. Im all for compromise don't know how many times I can say it. Sorry you are so angry that I don't think this is the right one. Keep calling people who don't agree with you a socialist though you are just derailing your own cause. Good luck with this.

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone is killing 3 things a week because that's what happens when you get asked to share mobs with 6 other guilds.

Problem, math? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Socialism [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[oddibemcd]

I actually didn't mind this proposal, but the devil was the details.

We won't touch targets...unless we need them.
You're welcome to try VP, but you get penalized.

This could get settled easy.

First ten days of the month are for guilds that didn't kill a VP dragon in the past month. A guild can't kill any mob in those 10 days they killed the previous month.

Rest of the month is a FFA.

[Argh]

Rotations are not fun.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rotations are not fun.

Neither is the current raiding scene on p99(well current as in before last week)

[Tayy]

Let's be honest, I can't see TMO or FE/IB giving out loot to another guild strictly to screw with things, they are much too proud to do that and if people begin guild jumping it will be pretty obvious to see whats up.

A point system/bag limit is the only fair way to go. I understand it's difficult to go from 90% of the mobs to 20% especially when you've increased your guild size to the point its at and have X number of alts that "need" to be geared to your liking but it's the only fair way. It's not going to be fair if you look at it from where your sitting, it's fair to everyone as a whole. Of course it's easy to say we have more people needing geared, were more hardcore then the next guild so were more entitled to shit but that's not in the best interests of fairness.

There will be times where other guilds max out their point total with lesser mobs and miss out on the big targets. It will effect everyone positively and negatively given certain circumstances.

If the guild leaders sat down over a large pizza to discuss problems and the devs bought the pizza and my guild leader ate 5 of the 10 slices and you and the other leaders are still fucking hungry when it's all gone, you better believe your gonna be pissed off when his excuse is "well I eat faster, hence worked harder....deal with it".... annnnnddd that's my analogy for the day.

[cyryllis]

Obviously just make 18 guilds, one for each raid target. When you no longer need gear from that raid target, switch guilds. That way 18 guilds get loot every week. Smile and sing along.


/S

Or just keep this well thought out proposal

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by cyryllis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obviously just make 18 guilds, one for each raid target. When you no longer need gear from that raid target, switch guilds. That way 18 guilds get loot every week. Smile and sing along.

Now this is a well thought out idea. We can all join <Trakanon>, <Venril Sathir>, etc. and kill the mobs together!

[Thulack]

Gotta love form of rotations still going on on Brell server even in 2004:
http://www.brellrants.net/brell/view...light=rotation

^^Classic EQ for some of us.

[Exmo]

As part of the solution to this, can we have a technical change that upon spawn of specific targets, all people camped in the zone are moved to the Succor Point?

So the whole "Not Poopsocking" Fully buffed alt army is now at the ent to seb instead of trak's lair.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Exmo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As part of the solution to this, can we have a technical change that upon spawn of specific targets, all people camped in the zone are moved to the Succor Point?

So the whole "Not Poopsocking" Fully buffed alt army is now at the ent to seb instead of trak's lair.

This would be a pretty drastic change that could have some massive non-raid implications (for example, what about someone who parks out in Crypt overnight?). But I agree with you that one of the major problems affecting the raid scene is the camped-out alt army. It's not classic, and it totally trivializes pretty much everything about the mythical "competition" everyone seems to be in favor of.

I don't know if you need to make a technical change, though. Just make it against the rules and set a penalty table. First offense, 1 week raid suspension. Second offense, 2 weeks. Third offense, a month. Etc, etc. It won't be hard to tell the difference between a guild mobilizing from zone line and 27 guild members instantly appearing in VS pit.