Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[quido]

the "you suck" is a legitimate part of my argument/stance!

[Raden]

Tasslehof what are you having for breakfast?

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Raden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tasslehof what are you having for breakfast?

lets see

whineabix?

tearflakes?

crycry pops?

is that what you were thinking?

[Raavak]

Should we call the whaaa-mbulance?

[kotton05]

Sometimes when I stay up all night I can't tell if the screaming outside are kids or someone getting murdered.

Time for 2001 space odyssey me thinks.

[Joroz]

on live the zone was non csr to give you a real sense of loosing your hard earned pixels if your raid sucked bad enough to go in and loose their bodies. No gm help, no summons, no anything... just you and your naked friends trying desperately to get your gear back that took countless /played days of your life to get.

on p99 the zone is non csr but means a whole different thing, its more like a battleground where everything goes... except certain exploits. its not about loosing your shit; its about just not caring about this zone at all... so guilds "should" be able to work out their own issues with each other in this zone on p99 but as we see this not the case and often overflows into the rest of the server. VP on p99 is in care-bear mode, the dynamics are broken for most of the zone and the only challenges that this zone really presents guilds is how to pvp each other with mobs.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Joroz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

on live the zone was non csr to give you a real sense of loosing your hard earned pixels if your raid sucked bad enough to go in and loose their bodies. No gm help, no summons, no anything... just you and your naked friends trying desperately to get your gear back that took countless /played days of your life to get.

on p99 the zone is non csr but means a whole different thing, its more like a battleground where everything goes... except certain exploits. its not about loosing your shit; its about just not caring about this zone at all... so guilds "should" be able to work out their own issues with each other in this zone on p99 but as we see this not the case and often overflows into the rest of the server. VP on p99 is in care-bear mode, the dynamics are broken for most of the zone and the only challenges that this zone really presents guilds is how to pvp each other with mobs.

There is also zero risk of corpse rot in VP or other places on this server. People can come back a year later and get their stuff back.

[Joroz]

The occupy VP movement worked really well till the 5 or 6 doing it got burned out... seems there are quite a bit more people now with interest in VP which could basically make it impossible to kill anything until things get worked out... Don't expect gm's to change anything... get your ass in there and "exploit" the lack of rules to prevent anyone from progressing... which will eventually lead to progress. Only takes a few people to ruin hours of many in that zone.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Joroz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The occupy VP movement worked really well till the 5 or 6 doing it got burned out... seems there are quite a bit more people now with interest in VP which could basically make it impossible to kill anything until things get worked out... Don't expect gm's to change anything... get your ass in there and "exploit" the lack of rules to prevent anyone from progressing... which will eventually lead to progress. Only takes a few people to ruin hours of many in that zone.

Very true but some of us actually dislike training and griefing other players, even if it meant a bigger chance that negotiations should be had. Training is lame, annoying, not challenging, and frankly isn't even entertaining. Sure, killing 30-40 TMO in a few minutes is probably fun the first time or two you do it. After that, if you enjoy it, you're just retarded.

Just need to change the shitty rules that are in place concerning VP. It's the last raid zone available on this server and on kunark, has been locked down by 1 guild for 2 years now, lets just change this bullshit rule once and for all and make P99 more classic and more fun.


PS: Training was never allowed on live to all the mongoloids who still have yet to grasp this idea. Training was allowed in VP on p99 I guess because the p99 GM's felt this was the best way to set it up at the time. "Non-CSR" zones on live did not mean you could train, only that you were shit out of luck if you wiped because GM's would not help you. Now, times have changed, and there are a lot more players here.

Sanctioned training no longer works for VP.

[Joroz]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Very true but some of us actually dislike training and griefing other players

No one said it was liked... actually VD's effort ultimately failed as 90% of the guild wasn't on board with this tactic so it eventually fizzled out as those doing it got burned out... however I would imagine there it quite a bit more people playing these days that do not have such a reservation about training in a zone without rules. I support the idea that train's should just be considered bad in all zones but no one cares at all about VP... you might just have to take matters into your hands and force changes in the community.