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Old 07-03-2023, 04:07 PM
DeathsSilkyMist DeathsSilkyMist is offline
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# of posts about Shamans improving the DPS of their group via Root-Rotting mobs parallel to the group: tens? hundreds?
# of posts including evidence of such: 0



Constantly cannibalizing over long periods/gameplay sessions = fatigue

Stress because a Charm might break =/= fatigue from constantly Cannibalizing

Paying attention because a Charm might break =/= fatigue from constantly Cannibalizing




Did you forget about the tens? hundreds? of posts you made claiming Shaman can improve group DPS by Root Rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group? None of your "evidence" has included your Shaman doing this. Again, you are the person claiming you can do this. You need to provide evidence for this claim.
The number of posts you have in this thread is 376, which is basically your entire post count.

You have no posts that contain any evidence for anything you are saying. I am not sure what you are trying to argue here. If your point is that every claim needs some evidence, you need to start that first. I have provided multiple pieces of evidence for multiple claims thus far.
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Old 07-03-2023, 04:13 PM
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The number of posts you have in this thread is 376, which is basically your entire post count.

You have no posts that contain any evidence for anything you are saying. I am not sure what you are trying to argue here. If your point is that every claim needs some evidence, you need to start that first. I have provided multiple pieces of evidence for multiple claims thus far.
The evidence which proves you have made tens? hundreds? of posts claiming that Shamans can improve group DPS by Root Rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group - while providing exactly zero evidence that your Shaman has ever done such a thing, much less that it is a common/frequent occurrence - is this entire thread.

Furthermore, I have made no claims in this thread, I have only stated irrefutable facts - like the above - and asked simple questions.
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Old 07-03-2023, 04:04 PM
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You have stated your arguments repeatedly, but the vast majority of the fellow EQ veterans who comprise this forum have not found them compelling. If this were a trial, you would lose, and a jury of your peers would find you guilty of Shaman fanboyism to a unhealthy degree. The punishment is having your character permanently exiled to Oggok, where you will live out the rest of your days buffing the Bouncers and killing the wandering level 2 Armadillo. Eventually, you will run out of banked plat and no longer be able to afford food and water, at which point you will be forced to beg from the players who come in to farm the guards.

"Please, sir, can you spare a plat for a starving Ogre, I am hungry," you will say. The player, probably some upstart level 40 Mage or Necro, will stare at you curiously, before finally saying. "Aren't you that DSM fella? The guy who got exiled here for Shaman fanboyism?" at which you will be forced to nod meekly. They will laugh and drop transfer you a fine steel short sword (refusing to even sully themselves by opening a trade window with such an infamous character as yourself), which you will delightedly run off and vendor for a few plat, relieved to be able to afford the loaves of bread and bottles milk that sustain you in your exile.

This is the fate you chose. It didn't have to be this way, DSM. But you just couldn't help yourself.
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Old 07-03-2023, 04:09 PM
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You have stated your arguments repeatedly, but the vast majority of the fellow EQ veterans who comprise this forum have not found them compelling. If this were a trial, you would lose, and a jury of your peers would find you guilty of Shaman fanboyism to a unhealthy degree. The punishment is having your character permanently exiled to Oggok, where you will live out the rest of your days buffing the Bouncers and killing the wandering level 2 Armadillo. Eventually, you will run out of banked plat and no longer be able to afford food and water, at which point you will be forced to beg from the players who come in to farm the guards.

"Please, sir, can you spare a plat for a starving Ogre, I am hungry," you will say. The player, probably some upstart level 40 Mage or Necro, will stare at you curiously, before finally saying. "Aren't you that DSM fella? The guy who got exiled here for Shaman fanboyism?" at which you will be forced to nod meekly. They will laugh and drop transfer you a fine steel short sword (refusing to even sully themselves by opening a trade window with such an infamous character as yourself), which you will delightedly run off and vendor for a few plat, relieved to be able to afford the loaves of bread and bottles milk that sustain you in your exile.

This is the fate you chose. It didn't have to be this way, DSM. But you just couldn't help yourself.
When you can't rebut my arguments or evidence, you go back to simply saying "I am right and you are wrong, because other people agree with me". Ad populum fallacies are not compelling.

Your comparison to a jury trial is also irrelevant. A trial can find an innocent man guilty, or vice versa. The truth of a matter is not tied to the result of a jury trial.

A lot of these "veterans" who disagreed with me were also trolling for hundreds of pages. I am not sure why you think people who turned to trolling for hundreds of pages are credible. If my argument was so easy to rebut, someone would have made a video by now.
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Old 07-03-2023, 04:16 PM
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# of posts about Shamans improving the DPS of their group via Root-Rotting mulitple mobs parallel to the group: tens? hundreds?

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The evidence which proves you have made tens? hundreds? of posts claiming that Shamans can improve group DPS by Root Rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group - while providing exactly zero evidence that your Shaman has ever done such a thing, much less that it is a common/frequent occurrence - is this entire thread.
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Old 07-03-2023, 07:18 PM
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I don't know about you guys, but what I got from that video was; no UI, no GINA, 1st person half the time, staring at a mob's face while your casters were getting beat to shit, that enchanter literally would have died twice in the first 20 or so minutes if he hadn't saved himself with a stun/aoe mez due to DSM 1st person tanking, looking the wrong way, and clicking most of his spells. Large oof.
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Old 07-03-2023, 07:19 PM
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I don't know about you guys, but what I got from that video was; no UI, no GINA, 1st person half the time, staring at a mob's face while your casters were getting beat to shit, that enchanter literally would have died twice in the first 20 or so minutes if he hadn't saved himself with a stun/aoe mez due to DSM 1st person tanking, looking the wrong way, and clicking most of his spells. Large oof.
You still haven't shown any videos of how you play. I would love to see your professional style! It's quite easy to criticize when there is nothing to compare against.

I am not sure why you think this helps your argument anyway. Me being bad at the game simply means a Shaman can perform even better when played correctly. I can play well enough to counter the points in this thread.
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Old 07-03-2023, 07:21 PM
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You still haven't shown any videos of how you play. I would love to see your professional style! It's quite easy to criticize when there is nothing to compare against.
It is quite disingenuous to submit evidence of, say, an Apple, and attempt to present it as an Orange. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-03-2023, 10:06 PM
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Do we have a winner yet?
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Old 07-03-2023, 10:51 PM
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Nobody is doing hate minis without a rez at their beck and call, everyone knows this except for the loser who leveled one class to 60 and now has to keep arguing that it’s the bestest, most special one. You’re all arguing with a dude who has 1 lv60 with mediocre raid gear on a 13 year old eq1 server. The most elite camps he can think of are fungi king and PoM static rooms. It’s extremely funny when he gets wound up and tries to be witty but please don’t take him seriously.
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