stop bringing up the founding fathers in gun arguments - Page 35

Resheph · #**341** 01-14-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexical [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your argument is silly. It assumes that the majority of violent crimes are being carried out with assault rifles which can't be farther from the truth.

No, my argument is sensible. Using your own argument against me, if the majority are NOT being carried out with, or prevented using, assault riffles then the ban shouldn't affect anyone other than those intending to carry out mass killings.

Vellatri · #**342** 01-14-2013, 05:36 PM

Is it that hard for people to acknowledge the possibility that the mere threat of armed resistance can deter violence before armed resistance actually needs to be used? It's not like criminals prey on the weak or anything...

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I love the Australian stuff when it's totally bullshit. That story has been kicking around the Net for a while. Check out Snopes.

Of course you didn't provide specifics. You can't, because Snopes didn't refute any of the points I listed. Like I said, I even verified the data from an independent source. You're free to do so yourself.

Maybe you were referring to someone else's post. In that case, ignore the above.

Lexical · #**343** 01-14-2013, 05:38 PM

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Handguns are a problem, but I refuse to argue against them. It's a futile attempt to do so and I can see legitimate reasons to have them.

Can you even argue completely against them if you can see legitimate reasons for having them?

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Police having automatic weapons in the trunk is not much of an issue. Anyone, police or not, walking around with an automatic rifle slung over their shoulder IS (unless they are summoned to the scene for a specific purpose, like SWAT).

You are correct and it just so happens our current gun control laws already state that such things are illegal and very strictly enforced.

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I'm not against owning an automatic rifle in the home. Well, I am, but won't argue against it.

So you are against stricter gun control?

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if you having a handgun doesn't discourage an attacker chances are nothing will.

I am sure there are plenty of people who are more scared of an assault rifle than they are of a 9mm.

From this post, you are not arguing anything and are against the stricter gun control. You are just turned off by the word "Assault Rifle" and therefore think they should be banned.

Vellatri · #**344** 01-14-2013, 05:43 PM

Truth be told, the reason I want an AR-15 is for the kiddies, in case I'm not home. It's quieter than a shotgun and has less kick. It's easier to control and has more stopping power than a handgun. Perfect for the munchkins.

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!

Arrisard · #**345** 01-14-2013, 05:47 PM

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You are correct and it just so happens our current gun control laws already state that such things are illegal and very strictly enforced.

In point of fact, here in the great state of Ohio, it's 100% perfectly legit to walk around with your legally owned slung automatic rifle. YMMV if you live in some pussy state that hate muh rites.

Lexical · #**346** 01-14-2013, 05:50 PM

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No, my argument is sensible. Using your own argument against me, if the majority are NOT being carried out with, or prevented using, assault riffles then the ban shouldn't affect anyone other than those intending to carry out mass killings.

Heh, this isn't sensible. It is like saying "since aids is typically spread through needles, all needles should be outlawed." If they aren't the problem, then why address them as such?

Vellatri · #**347** 01-14-2013, 05:55 PM

Maybe Lexical got hung up on different possible definitions of "automatic." My state also allows open carry of all legally owned guns.

Lexical · #**348** 01-14-2013, 06:05 PM

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In point of fact, here in the great state of Ohio, it's 100% perfectly legit to walk around with your legally owned slung automatic rifle. YMMV if you live in some pussy state that hate muh rites.

Far enough, but the states with full preemption of all firearm laws like Ohio are generally less populated/rural. If you were walking around a metropolitan area with such a cannon around your back, then you would be surrounded with cop cars faster than you know it.

Lexical · #**349** 01-14-2013, 06:06 PM

TEXAS IS THE ONLY STATE THAT MATTERS GOD DAMN IT! PISS OFF YA YANKS!

gloine36 · #**350** 01-14-2013, 07:19 PM

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
There ya go. You're refuted. I'm amazed at the stupidity of the gun nuts when it comes to their ignorance. Let me explain it gently. You're outnumbered. I don't give a fuck how many guns you own. Gun control is legal and is going to happen whether you like it or not. You can scream, bitch, holler, or pee down your leg about it, but it will happen. If you choose to be a criminal then you can go to jail.
If you want to see more little kids get massacred then keep going on with the mantra of more guns. People like you are the problem and the reason for the gun culture in this country.