stop bringing up the founding fathers in gun arguments

[Goofier]

Originally Posted by Faron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok I'll tell you, it's the mass murderer that's the cause, not what's in his hand.

Won't take long before one of 'em puts together Oklahoma City with Sandy Hook.
U-Haul or a dumptruck full of fertilizer and oil, drive right into the cafeteria.
Nothing but windows, usually, and large numbers gather there at scheduled times.

Just sayin'.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Lexical [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Snopes said that and anyone who went through stats 101 will know that. We have been through these motions Humerox.

Factcheck.org

Australian crime statistics show a marked decrease in homicides since the gun law change.

Furthermore, murders using firearms have declined even more sharply than murders in general since the 1996 gun law. In the seven years prior to 1997, firearms were used in 24 percent of all Australian homicides. But most recently, firearms were used in only 11 percent of Australian homicides, according to figures for the 12 months ending July 1, 2007. That’s a decline of more than half since enactment of the gun law to which this message refers.

[Humerox]

Getting pretty tired of all this tbh.

No ones changing their minds, and the arguments are really circular, lol.

Gonna wait to see what happens over the next cople of years. Should be interesting.

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Factcheck.org

Australian crime statistics show a marked decrease in homicides since the gun law change.

Furthermore, murders using firearms have declined even more sharply than murders in general since the 1996 gun law. In the seven years prior to 1997, firearms were used in 24 percent of all Australian homicides. But most recently, firearms were used in only 11 percent of Australian homicides, according to figures for the 12 months ending July 1, 2007. That’s a decline of more than half since enactment of the gun law to which this message refers.

Originally Posted by Lexical [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are they only focusing on death rates Humerox?

[Vellatri]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Factcheck.org

Australian crime statistics show a marked decrease in homicides since the gun law change.

Furthermore, murders using firearms have declined even more sharply than murders in general since the 1996 gun law. In the seven years prior to 1997, firearms were used in 24 percent of all Australian homicides. But most recently, firearms were used in only 11 percent of Australian homicides, according to figures for the 12 months ending July 1, 2007. That’s a decline of more than half since enactment of the gun law to which this message refers.

Nobody disputed any of this.

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No ones changing their minds, and the arguments are really circular, lol.

You're the one circling back to things that have already been proven false because you refuse to change your mind despite evidence to the contrary.

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getting pretty tired of all this tbh.

Of course you're getting tired of it. All of your arguments in support of gun control have been shot down. I'd be tired of it too if I were you. Cognitive dissonance can be a bitch.

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course you're getting tired of it. All of your arguments in support of gun control have been shot down. I'd be tired of it too if I were you. Cognitive dissonance can be a bitch.

Vellatri is pretty hot when she uses puns like that.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're the one circling back to things that have already been proven false because you refuse to change your mind despite evidence to the contrary.

Anyone that's been following this knows that no evidence to the contrary has been presented. None. Zero. Plenty of opinion and slanted journalism though.

Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course you're getting tired of it. All of your arguments in support of gun control have been shot down. I'd be tired of it too if I were you. Cognitive dissonance can be a bitch.

Well...you have to properly counter with legitimate sources in order to shoot an argument down.

Cognitive dissonance. Not very pertinent, but it sure sounds smart. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone that's been following this knows that no evidence to the contrary has been presented. None. Zero. Plenty of opinion and slanted journalism though.

I guess showing that your Australian study, your holy grail of 'proof,' is not relevant, tagging your reasoning as illogical, highlighting how the statistics you are posting are skewed, and showing you why the right to own guns is protected
by the constitution isn't enough evidence to show you that your side is full of shit. What would it take for you to at least acknowledge that the type of guns are not the problem?

[Vellatri]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone that's been following this knows that no evidence to the contrary has been presented. None. Zero. Plenty of opinion and slanted journalism though.

Well...you have to properly counter with legitimate sources in order to shoot an argument down.

Oops, looks like you ignored this post, yet again. You can keep calling it illegitimate non-evidence, but simply saying so does not make it so.

[Lexical]

I was going to continue, but I know whatever I would have posted would have been ignored or fallen on deaf ears while more irrelevant statistics come rushing in.