And I raaaaaan, I raaaan so far awaaaayyyy

[Hasbinlulz]

Ah.

[Frieza_Prexus]

My example goes more or less like this:

Guild A engages
Guild B Snipes 2nd Dt getting to be 1st on the aggro list
Guild A has aggro on CT but MUST pull back or Guild B is merited the kill
Guild A tries to camp to clear aggro and reset the encounter, but within those 30 seconds the train hits them.

This can be used by guild B to give themselves an uncontested shot at the mob or as a delaying tactic if they themselves are not fully prepared for an engage. It forces guild A to pull back with the entire zone hot on their tails and it removes A's ability to engage CT without giving B a free kill.

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My example goes more or less like this:

Guild A engages
Guild B Snipes 2nd Dt getting to be 1st on the aggro list
Guild A has aggro on CT but MUST pull back or Guild B is merited the kill
Guild A tries to camp to clear aggro and reset the encounter, but within those 30 seconds the train hits them.

This can be used by guild B to give themselves an uncontested shot at the mob or as a delaying tactic if they themselves are not fully prepared for an engage. It forces guild A to pull back with the entire zone hot on their tails and it removes A's ability to engage CT without giving B a free kill.

Raid Interference = Raid Suspension offense

Oh btw, what was this I heard about Forceful Entry trying to KS a severilous last night? Getting so mad you are forgetting the rules to the server....tsk tsk

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't play hide the ball. Again. The statement was made that RnF has no meaningful impact upon inter-guild relationships. I cited the example I did because I believe it clearly illustrates that it does.

The RF rotation being honored does not preclude that it was difficult to honor it because of RnF.

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand the point of this statement. What does this even mean? People directly stated that RnF was one reason they felt the rotation should be dishonored. Are you telling me that you know the real motivations of those individuals better than they themselves did?

Who, who said that RnF trolls directly impacted their decision on what to do with the Ragefire situation?
Are you implying that people in TMO, who have voices and can influence Zeelot, actually cited RnF as a reason to dissolve the agreement?

I remember talking to Zeelot and he never once, mentioned his actions having anything to do with anyone in RnF.

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it absolutely did influence the decisions of others. Those, in turn, do influence the leadership. Surely, you're not arguing that every leadership decision in TMO is utterly unilateral?

If anyone, and I mean anyone, actually believes and is influenced by anything anyone says in RnF, they are a moron.

Leadership in TMO isn't unilateral, if it was Ragefire agreement wouldn't have stood, but it's not so easily influenced by mindless rambling on a P99 Rants and Flames forum section.

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raid Interference = Raid Suspension offense

Oh btw, what was this I heard about Forceful Entry trying to KS a severilous last night? Getting so mad you are forgetting the rules to the server....tsk tsk

I would like to state that you can only play dumb about "thinking you have FTE" so many times, last nights severilous, a previous faydedar where TMO had FTE 1 minute and 36 seconds before your fail attempt. I don't believe your leadership can be this stupid, and I think there is a point where your fail attempts (or even successful attempts to KS) are malicious.

[Harazzer]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to state that you can only play dumb about "thinking you have FTE" so many times, last nights severilous, a previous faydedar where TMO had FTE 1 minute and 36 seconds before your fail attempt. I don't believe your leadership can be this stupid, and I think there is a point where your fail attempts (or even successful attempts to KS) are malicious.

Why do you care, you got your loot? Dont tell me how to play brew.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anyone, and I mean anyone, actually believes and is influenced by anything anyone says in RnF, they are a moron.

The RnF warriors keep saying things like this to absolve themselves, in their own mind, from acknowledging the vitriol they spew and encourage in RnF is digested and used in game and on the forums to breed hatred and animosity amongst the raiding population creating a vicious cycle.

[Frieza_Prexus]

If anyone, and I mean anyone, actually believes and is influenced by anything anyone says in RnF, they are a moron.

I disagree utterly. I absolutely take note of what people people say and do here. This forum is not license to lose one's sense of civility. There is much to be learned here, and this knowledge very much guides how I interact with those people.

The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raid Interference = Raid Suspension offense

Oh btw, what was this I heard about Forceful Entry trying to KS a severilous last night? Getting so mad you are forgetting the rules to the server....tsk tsk

We just wanted to get some damage in encase your eye puller got charmed on the way in and we jumped to the top of fte. We didn't want another CT where our raid didn't do any damage and got our hard earned FTE and loot taken away.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The RnF warriors keep saying things like this to absolve themselves, in their own mind, from acknowledging the vitriol they spew and encourage in RnF is digested and used in game and on the forums to breed hatred and animosity amongst the raiding population creating a vicious cycle.

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree utterly. I absolutely take note of what people people say and do here. This forum is not license to lose one's sense of civility. There is much to be learned here, and this knowledge very much guides how I interact with those people.

The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.

So you both think Zeelot's actions were influenced by the RnF trolls? You think I influenced Zeelot? Or hell, you think any actions of IB were influenced by trolls here? The only guild I can think of that has been influenced by the retarded shit posted here was VD, I'll give you one guess why that leadership was influenced too.

From everything I've seen, being an RnF troll and talking to guild leaders and officers (from many guilds) the only people that are directly influenced and buy into this forum section are morons.

It seems to me, that you want to believe that people are actively influenced by this drama section. Giving you a false since that those people don't actually want to think they way they are thinking. I hate to break it to you, but the majority of people who actually control what their guilds do, control it to how they see fit and don't care what is posted here.