TMO adds Talendor to the endangered dragon list

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by eadric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ is what we the players make of it, and on p99 we've made an ugly clusterfuck of what should be a really special server. I really don't get what is so fun and fulfilling about this idea of "competition" on a 13 year old game. 24/7 raiding, racing, training, FTE rule lawyering... that's your idea of fun competition? There are plenty of games out there that offer real competition in the form of functional PVP. EQ is not one of them, and the idea that the tactics used here are somehow something to be proud of, or enjoyable for anyone involved, is baffling to me.

EQ at its best is about cooperation and community, not about stomping on each others throats and being complete douchebags to each other. I know this will sound like a crazy concept to some, but EQ really is more fun if you just relax, work with other guilds rather than against them, and log into a PVP or FPS game when you need to take out your aggression. The raid culture here is so incredibly messed up... it's really much worse than it ever was on live, and that's a damn shame.

here is a hint. EQ is whatever you want it to be.

P99 is whatever the majority want it to be and to a lesser extent whatever the strongest wants it to be.

Don't want to compete for raid targets in the p99 aspect? don't. Wait it out and see how long till TMO gets bored or quits.

The server can go in many directions atm and honestly, the server is the most peaceful i've ever seen it since i've been here.

Everyone bitching is just doing what they do best, bitch. You want free loot, everyone already knows that, but don't expect the guild that stuck out the war to just roll over for you in an instant because you cried some. To the victor go the spoils, perhaps you should have fought it out to control the p99 world, then you could have turned it over in an instant.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by baub [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Put your money where your mouth is! Remember a while back when the idea was floated around to do Trakanon with X amount of people? Here is the log of our first kill:

[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] Players on EverQuest:
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] ---------------------------
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Ketchupmonster <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Sorcerer] Demps (Dark Elf) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Hateme <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Monday <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Dianamel <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Warlord] Naukan (Barbarian) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Virtuoso] Feminem (Wood Elf) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Kolevii <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Xzerion <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Fjora <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Wilshire
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Rellapse <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Chaosweaver <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Gwense <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Zarkaz <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Wharhogg <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Gwence <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Harkor <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Mcnecro <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] There are 19 players in Old Sebilis.

Bolded names are bots.

Each of these characters less geared than yours on 99. No CoTH to get shroomed back into the fray. Trak actually does all his abilities.

I'm sure you have virtually no competition so setting something up wouldn't be too hard.

back in pop trakanon was soloed by paladin sks and monks necros , what is ur point.

[deneauth]

what we should be searching for on this server is healthy competition. would someone please explain to me what that is? in 2 years I have not been able to figure it out.

[Velion]

Originally Posted by eadric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ is what we the players make of it, and on p99 we've made an ugly clusterfuck of what should be a really special server. I really don't get what is so fun and fulfilling about this idea of "competition" on a 13 year old game. 24/7 raiding, racing, training, FTE rule lawyering... that's your idea of fun competition? There are plenty of games out there that offer real competition in the form of functional PVP. EQ is not one of them, and the idea that the tactics used here are somehow something to be proud of, or enjoyable for anyone involved, is baffling to me.

EQ at its best is about cooperation and community, not about stomping on each others throats and being complete douchebags to each other. I know this will sound like a crazy concept to some, but EQ really is more fun if you just relax, work with other guilds rather than against them, and log into a PVP or FPS game when you need to take out your aggression. The raid culture here is so incredibly messed up... it's really much worse than it ever was on live, and that's a damn shame.

I agree with you 100% but the raiding population here just seems to be split on this issue. I understand many classic EQ raid encounters are not that difficult, so to some the competition and racing is the only real challenge. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that but it's just not my cup of tea and my schedule is not flexible enough to participate anymore. I generally have a 4-5 hour window in the evenings where I could do any sort of raiding and I could go weeks without anything significant spawning in that window.

[baub]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

back in pop trakanon was soloed by paladin sks and monks necros , what is ur point.

we're 60 and wearing banded? idk

[Gwence]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO can do it if they want, I don't log in atm as I don't feel the rush to compete. Killing easy raid targets that have a wide array of abilities (4-5 abilities holy shit) does not excite me at all.

You could kill Trakanon with 1 person and I wouldn't care. Kill Trakanon with 30 people while another 30 try to train you out, both start at the entrance of seb. Then i'll be impressed.

hhaahahaaahahaha - I dont even think you have 19 people in your guild that know there way down to trak, let along have the ability to kill it.

autotune so mad right now

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hhaahahaaahahaha - I dont even think you have 19 people in your guild that know there way down to trak, let along have the ability to kill it.

autotune so mad right now

lol, you act like it's some magical feat to make it down there. How, IB has low standards.

[Gwence]

wtb more excuses from autotune

[eadric]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

here is a hint. EQ is whatever you want it to be.

P99 is whatever the majority want it to be and to a lesser extent whatever the strongest wants it to be.

Don't want to compete for raid targets in the p99 aspect? don't. Wait it out and see how long till TMO gets bored or quits.

The server can go in many directions atm and honestly, the server is the most peaceful i've ever seen it since i've been here.

Everyone bitching is just doing what they do best, bitch. You want free loot, everyone already knows that, but don't expect the guild that stuck out the war to just roll over for you in an instant because you cried some. To the victor go the spoils, perhaps you should have fought it out to control the p99 world, then you could have turned it over in an instant.

Pretty much agree with everything you said there, surprisingly - Other than the "you want free loot" statement. To you guys who have "stuck out the war" that has been this server, training and racing and 24/7 raiding is part of the price of getting boss kills and loot. That isn't what it has to be, or what it should be - with the exception of the premier raid dungeon of the expansion - VP, for now, NToV + Sleepers in Velious. If you want to be on top you should expect to have to fight and claw for it, that I agree with.

So many good players have left the server due to the state of the endgame, and the community has really suffered as a result. Community is ultimately what this game should be about, not total domination of all raid targets. This server and this community are a shadow of what they could have been. Certainly I'm not blaming it all on TMO - I've read the history. Just hoping things take a turn for the better in the future. The Ragefire rotation was the first real progress I've seen in my time on the server, so maybe there will be more in the future.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hhaahahaaahahaha - I dont even think you have 19 people in your guild that know there way down to trak, let along have the ability to kill it.

autotune so mad right now

Hmm is this poisoning the well, or abusive fallacy?

Either way definitely an adhominem fallacy