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Old 08-29-2023, 04:26 PM
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Looks like I need to learn how to use ShowEQ and MQ then? Never used a third party program in a game before, but I guess if I want to play on Quarm I'm gonna have to figure out how they work.
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Old 08-29-2023, 05:31 PM
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Looks like I need to learn how to use ShowEQ and MQ then? Never used a third party program in a game before, but I guess if I want to play on Quarm I'm gonna have to figure out how they work.
These programs are still against the rules and subject to ban if caught, and Secrets may decide to rethink or expand enforcement. If they're doing things right, MQ especially is risky to use. Will remain to be seen.
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Old 08-29-2023, 05:57 PM
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Yeah, personally I'm a lot less worried about MQ because it's observable. Eventually someone will see and report you, a GM will silently watch you do it again, and you'll be gone from the server.

ShowEQ is more insidious. If I pop into Kedge, check ShowEQ, see nothing is up, and leave ... even if a GM is watching me, all it looks like is that I changed my mind on where to hunt (maybe I saw no one in zone was LFG, so I left). If I instead see that (say) the Ferocious Shark is up, and head for him ... all a GM would see is me checking a spawn point to see if a mob is up (and then discovering that it is).

The net result is that a lot of people will use ShowEQ and get nameds that non-Show-EQ users will miss out on, while the non-users won't even know it's going on: they'll just feel like nameds are up a bit less frequently on Quarm.

I'm still pretty excited about Quarm, but I don't want to have to use ShowEQ, or miss out on a ton of loot to people who do, so this might just stop me from joining the server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-30-2023, 12:33 PM
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Old 08-30-2023, 10:27 AM
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If I play on quarm i plan to never visit PoP
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Old 08-30-2023, 10:42 AM
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If I play on quarm i plan to never visit PoP
i bet you will

PoP was a breath of fresh air, with fresh and innovative new content after the disappointment of Luclin.

then, it all got polluted by the following expansions
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Old 08-30-2023, 01:23 PM
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i bet you will

PoP was a breath of fresh air, with fresh and innovative new content after the disappointment of Luclin.

then, it all got polluted by the following expansions
There's an argument to be made about PoP ruining what even Luclin had put into motion, because Luclin, aside from The Serpent's Spine (which I have gripes with about re-itemization of classic content) was the last expansion in which we had a starting city, and 1-60 content in the same release.

I would say that PoP set the modern design of EQ on an irreversible tract. But, also, the design of Planes of Power did allow for there to be proper power growth versus future expansions.

Folks looked forward to entering Tranquility and such at 46; though, planes irrevocably changed the 46+ grinding experience.

In every situation, Disease, Nightmare, Justice and Innovation would outperform the experience in a full group of every other zone at 46+, with the exception of some outliers like The Deep, Ssra's basement (undead!), Akheva, Umbral and similar zones with comparable mob levels and less mob stats, or niche mob types.

However, it's unquestionably better to grind in Valor than any zone once you get access to it. Same goes with Tactics, BoThunder, and Fire when you get access to those. Even if your gear is shit, you've still got aggro kiting in HoH, frogs in Storms, fiends in Valor, etc... which can simply be aggro kited without risk.

The experience in those zones are so good to the point that it turns everything prior into a playground for item farming and challenge modes - like soloing Trakanon, Kunark Dragons, or doing Velious content with less folks.

If you're planar geared and hit 65 w/ planar AAs, you're going to be demonstrably better than those with without, too. Not to the point where you aren't able to progress, but you have a slower time progressing in that era.

Every expansion since then has gotten worse.

So, PoP really did set that in motion.
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Old 08-30-2023, 12:29 PM
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If I play on quarm i plan to never visit PoP
My first move is to move to PoK and bind at the top of the elevator and med in the lift pesking staff for help when i glitch thru and 20k.
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Old 08-30-2023, 12:48 PM
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My first move is to move to PoK and bind at the top of the elevator and med in the lift pesking staff for help when i glitch thru and 20k.
I'm gonna buff charm pets with ferocity! And give them glowing black swords!
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Old 08-30-2023, 10:36 AM
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This server is going to be more popular then people think and I'm here for it.
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