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Old 07-20-2016, 04:28 PM
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:03 PM
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Daywolf you say so much nonsense that I can't take you seriously. Thanks for the laugh though.
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:09 PM
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There was a Saludeen post that I found while on my phone that I genuinely agreed with that I meant to requote, now I can't find it.

Oh well.
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:17 PM
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.. i mean .. *stifled guffaw* .. if there is such a thing as .. *probing eye contact* .. "racial markers" .. *gigglish outburst* .. then surely you can easily define race .. *knowing smile* ..
This is so silly that it can only come from someone who went to college. Any child of 5 can tell the difference between a Black man and an Asian man, yet because there isn't a magical 'Black' gene or an 'Asian' gene you are busy feeling superior on an internet message board to people using their common sense to make accurate real life predictions.

It's easy to show that races differ significantly genetically. For example, here is a paper on race in Nature. It has over 400 citations, and it says:

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Of the 0.1% of DNA that varies among individuals, what proportion varies among main populations? Consider an apportionment of Old World populations into three continents (Africa, Asia and Europe), a grouping that corresponds to a common view of three of the 'major races'16, 17. Approximately 85−90% of genetic variation is found within these continental groups, and only an additional 10−15% of variation is found between them
So, while most genetic variation occurs between individuals, a solid 10-15% comes from what most people would call race. Scientists would probably consider the various races to be subspecies if it wasn't so politically incorrect. After all, an African human and an Asian human have far greater visibly obvious differences than a Siberian tiger and a Bengal tiger.

Edit: if you really want to have some fun, humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes for a total of 46. One of these differs between Men and Women, for about 2%. That's vastly higher than the 0.1% variance within the human species, and actually higher than the difference between humans and chimps (about 1%). So a male human is genetically closer to a male chimpazee than a female human, and a female human is genetically closer to a female chimpanzee than a male human. Meanwhile a cat only shares 90% of its genome with us.

And as long as I am busy writing this longwinded post that no one will read or understand, let me simply say that I am comfortable with racial differences between humans because I don't support government action based on, well, anything. If you believe in using government to fix problems, and you realize that races are genetically different, well one race must be better based on some criteria, and then you have the obligation to FIX it, and that leads you down a very unpleasant path. Whereas if you believe in small government that does not discriminate, you can simply accept obvious facts and move on with your life.
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:38 PM
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This is so silly that it can only come from someone who went to college.
Absolutely right. This is stuff I didn't hear until my required Anthro 101 "cultural studies" course, along with the biggest dogma of that field: ethnocentrism. These people recoil in horror about Nazis yet claim value-judgments about cultural variation are impossible to make.

In actual science/medical education race is very relevant, and although the racial categories extant in popular consciousness were defined somewhat arbitrarily (the real actual categories spawned from recent understanding of genetics don't have easy-to-remember names) they are still quite useful and reasonably accurate at the population scale, as far as blunt instruments go.

Daddy zog knows he can trust the libarts chrilden to lap this shit up even as the very same institution is teaching the opposite in evidence-based classes. I recently heard a 40-year-old college-educated woman say that there is no way to discern the biological sex of a human being by looking at their genetic makeup. She makes over 100k at one of the most major tech and big data firms on Earth. The god of abraham will grant you Eden yall, just stay away from that apple of knowledge.
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:39 PM
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So, while most genetic variation occurs between individuals, a solid 10-15% comes from what most people would call race. Scientists would probably consider the various races to be subspecies if it wasn't so politically incorrect. After all, an African human and an Asian human have far greater visibly obvious differences than a Siberian tiger and a Bengal tiger.
What is the common definition of species?
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:39 PM
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Watson/Crick disagree. Also the following https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon

"In 2005, the official view of the International Committee of the Red Cross was "The potential to target a particular ethnic group with a biological agent is probably not far off. These scenarios are not the product of the ICRC's imagination but have either occurred or been identified by countless independent and governmental experts."[5]
As we know, geneticists have discovered that the Jewish phenotypes exist in Ashkenazi Jews as well as Semitic Jews and Sephardic Jews.

The phenotype is extremely dominant. You can have 1 great-grandmother who was Jewish on your mothers side of the family who married in, and still possess the DNA necessary to pass an Israeli citizenship certification (DNA exam).

The bioweapon I'd be concerned about would be one used against Iran and Palestine, targeting non-Jew phenotypes. Which would eventually leapfrog to the world through mass current propagation of mass migration policies by Emperor Zog (video game).

The Talmud declaring a "Chosen people to survive by God" is extremely dangerous to any free society. Chosen is exceptionalism, chosen is nationalism, chosen is I am better than you. Are you all comfortable with that? Why should any ethnic group declare itself better than anyone else? Or "chosen to survive" over anyone else?

Isn't that kinda racist? Weird.
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The Talmud declaring a "Chosen people to survive by God" is extremely dangerous to any free society. Chosen is exceptionalism, chosen is nationalism, chosen is I am better than you. Are you all comfortable with that? Why should any ethnic group declare itself better than anyone else? Or "chosen to survive" over anyone else?

Isn't that kinda racist? Weird.
butt it's a religion, not a race? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] but you can only fully convert if you have a womb??? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:48 PM
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When Israel instituted an actual DNA test to determine citizenship the zogbots lost this Religion VS Ethnicity propaganda war.

I used to hear that a lot from plebs. Just heard it last year actually from an extended family member. "Jew is a religion". Now thanks to Israel I can just point out "Hey, whats up with Israel's citizenship and DNA testing?"

Shuts them down pretty quick, then I never talk to them again because there is no woke they can possibly offer me being so incredibly brainwashed.
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Daywolf you say so much nonsense that I can't take you seriously. Thanks for the laugh though.
Because it's not modern liberal. That's foundation mainstream right there, man, even predates the understanding reached by the First Council of Nicaea in 325 of which is in agreement. You seem to only understand your own version of Islam, and everything else is a joke and to be ignored (I find the study of many religions fascinating as tied into history). As they say, ignorance is bliss, though some peoples bliss includes living on the hilt end of a sword, sadly.
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