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[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by dav [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is proof IB-Members were paying Amelinda* - Fact.
There is proof implicating Amelinda favoring TMO* - Fact.

What is your issue here?

The second line. There is nothing indicating and rulings amelinda made affected tmo obviously in a biased fashion. Please provide these facts you claim to have.

Please!

[Rangerboy]

Zeelot is mad

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the 2 hour drive home 12 pages spawned. Lots of juicey pr spin happening.

As far as the VD suspensions went, we(not me) took it on the chin and either bowed out or came back to pick it up and carry on. We didn't cry about unfair treatment.

Zeelot, good luck with that. Only the sith deal in absolutes.

Maybe the rest of the flock that don't go can split up and make two guilds to help foster a more friendly raiding environment.

Was your guild raid suspended? Derp

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no sympathy for cheaters/offenders. 86 account's didnt dupe. 2 players did. Loke should be perma banned for using SEQ. Froovy/Internode and his owned accounts should be perma banned. Non-offenders shouldnt be banned/suspended.

Pretty simple

GM's didnt list those accounts. Uthgaard did. He was also removed as GM after that. Rogean is top dog.... something gonna remove him now?

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ignorance is no excuse.

See how much work your guild has created for the staff? The staff now has to go around investigating 86 accounts because your guild couldn't keep their info to themselves. Your guild has benefited massively from the ability to share accounts, and this is the risk associated with that strategy.

And still, there is no remorse from TMO except toward its own membership. Nothing to be sorry about except that you got caught. Only obstinate defiance.

Damn good thread, and anything of my opinion, not that it matters, has already been said by Barkingturtle.

[Senaiel]

To whomever complained about VD memblurring: yes,we (VD) did grief you in VP with memblur. You should blame yourselves for that because you were the ones who showed us how to do it while losing a few of your precious mobs outside of VP.

[Nuggie]

Also, on amelinda. I recall her looking past TMO's shadyness a bunch of times. Claiming there wasn't enough evidence or whatever when it was clear to those present that they broke rules.

I also recall her coking down on IB a lot more often than TMO. It appeared that she came down on TMO only when the situation left her zero wiggle room to let them out.

Also speaking to some of TMO's more ancient douchebaggery: I recall VD having fear broken and TMO coming in to take the necros and druid dropping mobs out from under us.

[Rangerboy]

poll to ban zeelot: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=131798

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you wanted TMO to change our raid scene approach, you could have asked and we would have been open to any ideas.

lol, right, like the staff and everyone else has never expressed disapproval

[dav]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The second line. There is nothing indicating and rulings amelinda made affected tmo obviously in a biased fashion. Please provide these facts you claim to have.

Please!

It's a pretty widely established fact. She ninja-lifted TMO suspension, gave personal favors to tons of players in TMO (and other guilds for what it is worth) based on who was kissing the most ass/giving her the most attention, and was Tiggles e-girlfriend.

If you don't believe it then you simply cannot be helped, I am sorry. We are way off topic, and in the opinion of the majority of the people who are aware of the fact that Amelinda assisted TMO, you are wrong.

Back to the topic at hand.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=131739

Don't need to check guild forums, just another thread in this forum, and you'd have your answer. Seems the guild leaders got together rather quickly to work out a special arrangement to make the raid scene on this server better.

You say it won't last and we'll have the shitfest of 2012/2013 all through 2014? The mighty Rogean has already spoken and said it will not be so. If things devolve again, the shitfest won't last for long before actions are taken.

Do not challenge the Rogean's power. Do not anger the Rogean.

The only thing I'm challenging Rogean's power on is sigquest which is bullshit right now.

I do truly hope your plans hold together. I really do. A pleasant raid atmosphere with mobs being downed at "normal hours" would be a nice change for everyone for a while.