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Old 10-08-2016, 02:37 AM
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There's a ton of different variants and rules surrounding DKP systems. A simple decay system would prevent DKP buildup with set item prices. Or you can go for a suicide kings type of system. Bidding is perfectly fine too but I prefer when its out in the open and not blind. I've been in several guilds over the years with open bids in /gu and it works great. I like as much transparency as possible so there's no question whether or not someone is being shady behind the scenes.

I've said before and I'll say again. I wouldn't trust myself to be fair if I got to decide who gets loot. I would absolutely without question be biased in favor of my friends and people I liked more than those who might deserve it more. So that being the case I find it a little ridiculous for anyone to expect me to completely trust a random elf council more than I'd trust myself with the same job.
We also use decay. It's not that simple really. Like I said, the dkp is moving a lot better now with the bidding. Open bidding is fine also. I'm a skeptic myself only because of most of the trash I have seen on p99 and other games. Most of the people in our guild are older and less pixel lusty. We've been around the block. Don't have time for the petty shit. It's a good fit for me.
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Old 10-08-2016, 10:10 AM
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I wouldn't trust myself to be fair if I got to decide who gets loot. I would absolutely without question be biased in favor of my friends and people I liked more than those who might deserve it more. So that being the case I find it a little ridiculous for anyone to expect me to completely trust a random elf council more than I'd trust myself with the same job.
There was only one person I ever refused to fight for when I was an officer. Bias can absolutely exist.
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Old 10-08-2016, 10:58 AM
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The only loot system that's fair is straight /random.
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Old 10-08-2016, 01:34 PM
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The only loot system that's fair is straight /random.
Nothing like your 95% Raid Attendance raid leader losing that roll on best in slot item X to casual Joe 2% Raid Attendance.

Pure DKP is best win. But some people are dumb and need to be saved from themselves unfortunately. Dagarn Legs for example don't belong on a Druid.
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Old 10-08-2016, 02:09 PM
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Assign a value toe every item, 10 points is the most, 1 is the least. You earn 1 point per hour you raid. 60 day decay (prevents people from leaving for a long time and coming back and snagging bis off of someone who's been grinding), and the person w/ the most amount of points get the item. Easy, transparent, and fair.
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Old 10-08-2016, 02:11 PM
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Nothing like your 95% Raid Attendance raid leader losing that roll on best in slot item X to casual Joe 2% Raid Attendance.

Pure DKP is best win. But some people are dumb and need to be saved from themselves unfortunately. Dagarn Legs for example don't belong on a Druid.
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Old 10-08-2016, 03:05 PM
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Nothing like your 95% Raid Attendance raid leader losing that roll on best in slot item X to casual Joe 2% Raid Attendance.

Pure DKP is best win. But some people are dumb and need to be saved from themselves unfortunately. Dagarn Legs for example don't belong on a Druid.
95% Raid Attendance raid leader is going to win that many more rolls than 2% attendance guy and 95% raid leader guy is probably going to be at the next raid too. There's always another raid, there's always another item. How much No Drop shit is there rotting in banks or just got deleted that would be upgrades to 90% of the guild but didn't go to someone because 95% raid attendance guy spent his DKP on a 2 delay upgrade?

Nothing is fairer than the dice. Suck it up and play to roll again.
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Old 10-08-2016, 04:41 PM
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Old 10-08-2016, 04:53 PM
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Old 10-08-2016, 05:13 PM
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