Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Gloomlord]

Alright, I'll humour you. Don't know why, since I'm giving you exactly what you want.

If variables exist in a group, then this means data for solo DPS is irrelevant.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alright, I'll humour you. Don't know why, since I'm giving you exactly what you want.

If variables exist in a group, then this means data for solo DPS is irrelevant.

No, it doesn't mean the solo DPS data is irrelevant.

Let me ask you a question. If a Mage does 20 DPS in a group because their pet keeps dying, and a Shaman does 50 DPS because they are DoTing, does that mean a Mage does less DPS than a Shaman?

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it doesn't mean the solo DPS data is irrelevant.

Let me ask you a question. If a Mage does 20 DPS in a group because their pet keeps dying, and a Shaman does 50 DPS because they are DoTing, does that mean a Mage does less DPS than a Shaman?

Let me ask you a question. Does the cause NEGATE the effect/result?

[Gloomlord]

I hope the people who were polite see you for what you truly are now. I hope I've vindicated myself to all the people who said I went too far.

You people defended a lying sociopath. This isn't even stupidity at this point. He knows full well this is blatantly false.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope the people who were polite see you for what you truly are now. I hope I've vindicated myself to all the people who said I went too far.

You people defended a lying sociopath. This isn't even stupidity at this point. He knows full well this is blatantly false.

You didn't answer my question, because you know I am correct[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a Mage ends up doing less DPS in a group than a Shaman because the puller was bad, that doesn't mean Mages do less DPS than Shamans.

You compare DPS in a vacuum, to show the highest potential each class can do. People do not say that Rangers out-DPS Rogues simply because they saw a parse showing a Ranger out-DPSing a Rogue in a group.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't answer my question, because you know I am correct[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a Mage ends up doing less DPS in a group than a Shaman because the puller was bad, that doesn't mean Mages do less DPS than Shamans.

You compare DPS in a vacuum, to show the highest potential each class can do. People do not say that Rangers out-DPS Rogues simply because they saw a parse showing a Ranger out-DPSing a Rogue in a group.

I actually did answer this exact question hundreds of pages ago.

You'd probably like to forget about that, right? Best pretend you weren't already defeated back then.

Careful, sociopath! Your mask is slipping!

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't answer my question, because you know I am correct[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that why you have dodged the vast majority of mine? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a Mage ends up doing less DPS in a group than a Shaman because the puller was bad, that doesn't mean Mages do less DPS than Shamans.

Nobody said it did? Nice Straw Man.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You compare DPS in a vacuum, to show the highest potential each class can do. People do not say that Rangers out-DPS Rogues simply because they saw a parse showing a Ranger out-DPSing a Rogue in a group.

A vacuum of class comparison is simply irrelevant, we are not discussing automation or "what are classes capable of independent of a player actually playing the character", the OP did NOT make that specification.

You have still not provided the definition you are using for "playing correctly", nor have you explained how the following 4 - direct - Quotes are not contradictory:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Assuming your group plays correctly, you will DPS the same way every time, the same as if you were solo.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am very confident it won't change in a group scenario.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once you add in outside variables, that changes the DPS equation NOT because of what the class can do, but because of what other players are doing.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope the people who were polite see you for what you truly are now. I hope I've vindicated myself to all the people who said I went too far.

Nope you're still obnoxious, and you still do nothing but make insults.

I wish you'd stop posting in this thread. You're not helping anything.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope you're still obnoxious, and you still do nothing but make insults.

I wish you'd stop posting in this thread. You're not helping anything.

Did you somehow ignore the other things I was saying? Just had to single out on the insults that were utterly deserved.

You're obnoxious for acting self-righteous, child. I wish you'd stop giving this manipulative liar ammunition.

Take your own advice and fuck off.

[Gloomlord]

I mean, even an idiot can figure this out.

A Shaman will not output the same DPS on a solo target as he will on a mob being destroyed by two hasted charms. He will also be wasting mana with dots, because they can't unleash their full duration.

It's so obvious it's irrelevant. The man is exhausting us so we get fed up with trying to talk sense into him.