stop bringing up the founding fathers in gun arguments

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by vaylorie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The liberal approach, as is generally the case, is an incremental increase in regulation. They will propose major changes like banning and confiscation of all semi-automatic weapons without ever being serious. In turn, it lets them 'settle' on smaller restrictions that they really want like magazine capacity caps and a national registry..

Show me these proposals.

[Lexical]

wow, that post was so redundant. That is what happens when you write a sentence and get distracted and have another conversation and try to rapidly finish a thought. My apologies.

[Harmonium]

"During MSNBC’s “The Cycle” on Monday, MSNBC co-host Touré said Americans are putting themselves in danger, not protecting themselves, by owning guns. He later said only President Barack Obama can “save us from the gun epidemic.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...ma-to-save-us/


lol, do any of you watch MSNBC for news? honestly?

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Harmonium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"During MSNBC’s “The Cycle” on Monday, MSNBC co-host Touré said Americans are putting themselves in danger, not protecting themselves, by owning guns. He later said only President Barack Obama can “save us from the gun epidemic.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...ma-to-save-us/


lol, do any of you watch MSNBC for news? honestly?

"Watching" anything for news is pretty silly these days.

[Humerox]

[QUOTE=Harmonium;814748lol, do any of you watch MSNBC for news? honestly?[/QUOTE]

personally I prefer the BBC...but there has to be a Fox alternative.

[Humerox]

fail quote

Originally Posted by Harmonium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol, do any of you watch MSNBC for news? honestly?

personally I prefer the BBC...but there has to be a Fox alternative.

[patriot1776]

fuck 'news' who cares

[Vellatri]

No kidding. I guess it's okay to have much more blood in the streets as long as it doesn't get on the newspapers.

[Lexical]

The article below shows that despite our relaxed gun control laws, our rates of violent crimes have decreased from 1996 - 2010. The FBI annual crime statistic report also shows these numbers to be accurate. These same numbers are used in the report Vell linked. The ABS rates are hard to come by, but the article refers to them.
http://www.fcsm.gov/12papers/Li_2012FCSM_I-B.pdf

First, you can not look at a law in Australia and expect the same outcome here. Snopes said that and anyone who went through stats 101 will know that. We have been through these motions Humerox.

[Faron]

Originally Posted by Lexical [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First, you can not look at a law in Australia and expect the same outcome here.

Yep. And the other fail is looking at their gun laws and assuming it is the one single factor that affects mass murder rates, or that it even affects mass murders at all. If someone has it in their head that they want to murder 50 people, I don't see how a gun law is going to magically remove that idea from their head. This issue has really shown a lack of basic problem solving skills for a lot of people. They are unable, or unwilling to correctly identify the cause of a mass murder. Ok I'll tell you, it's the mass murderer that's the cause, not what's in his hand.