most underpowered class in game?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mage pet DPS is clearly better than an equivalent level melee with mino axes. Also, pet will never get aggro from tank and even if a pet gets some "oops" damage on them they regen much faster than players so no need to waste mana healing.

But it doesn't really matter that it's better. Most groups aren't going to kick all non-mages, and low level groups still clear content fast enough to where people like the XP rate. That's the point. Just because it's better on paper, doesn't mean it has any practical use. Killing maybe 10 more mobs an hour due to the slight DPS increase isn't going to be noticed by most players.

If you want to Min/Max an XP group, you just need to run a static group.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it doesn't really matter that it's better. Most groups aren't going to kick all non-mages, and low level groups still clear content fast enough to where people like the XP rate. That's the point. Just because it's better on paper, doesn't mean it has any practical use. Killing maybe 10 more mobs an hour due to the slight DPS increase isn't going to be noticed by most players.

If you want to Min/Max an XP group, you just need to run a static group.

I like when you post because I've honestly never seen someone take such odd/incorrect stances on things and then defend them to like the death. It's so strange but it's also fascinating and amusing to watch

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like when you post because I've honestly never seen someone take such odd/incorrect stances on things and then defend them to like the death. It's so strange but it's also fascinating and amusing to watch

Sorry you haven't played the game apparently lol. I have never seen a low level group have trouble clearing content. Most people aren't Min/Maxing their XP groups. If they were, they wouldn't play in public groups.

How the majority of players play on P99 matters. Just because something is better, doesn't mean the P99 player base takes advantage of it.

The problem with having 6 mages in a group is everybody is leveling a mage lol, and most people don't want to level a mage.

You could also contribute to the thread, instead of just making yourself look like an asshole lol. Nobody cares about your hot take on what you think of my posts.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like when you post because I've honestly never seen someone take such odd/incorrect stances on things and then defend them to like the death. It's so strange but it's also fascinating and amusing to watch

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody cares about your hot take on what you think of my posts.

I care: cd288 summed up your shtick eloquently.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Same with Loramin, posting nonsense instead of contributing.

You could also contribute to the thread, instead of just making yourself look like an asshole lol. Nobody cares about your hot take on what you think of my posts.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I care. cd288 summed you up eloquently.

He didn't. Just saying so doesn't make it true[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I agree that across the board, looking at the game as a whole, warriors are the most underpowered class. They lack the tools to do their job, period. Even at a raid level, warriors have to abuse farmed up high threat clickies in order to hold aggro. The only thing they're good at is taking damage but they have no intrinsically good way to do that themselves.

Every other class in the game inherently does what it is they're intended to do except for warriors.

If warriors had an ability that generated threat, then it's a lot more difficult. I'd probably go with Wizard? I really love playing one, I have a ton of fun because I enjoy the slow playstyle, but from a raw numbers perspective their damage is abysmal in groups. Your mana can't keep up with a good group and the way threat functions in the game necessitates that they do less damage than other classes.

Not true, in group content my war wrecks everything, raid warriors are way different and not even comparable to group geared wars /nod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And raid content if using the right weps there are zero agro issues. Feverblade primary is solid agro whether or not it procs.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine thinking that DPS doesn't matter because people aren't assholes who gatekeep people based on gear.

Your argument is also pointless because you're applying it to P99 as though it's an MMO with a full, healthy population. I.e., it's not like you always have 10 people sitting there clamoring to get into your group. You take who is available because otherwise you might not have anyone to fill that spot. Unless you're in KC it's not like you have a wealth of players to choose from. So your argument is pointless.

The flaw with this argument is you don't seem to understand that a lot of games DO have DPS checks. In those games, if you don't meet the DPS check, you don't get to do the content. Period.

P99 doesn't work this way. Gear checks don't happen, because it doesn't really matter. If DPS mattered, group compositions and gear requirements would be much stricter across the board when doing public groups. That is just what happens in games with actual DPS checks. People have to be strict out of necessity for clearing the content in an acceptable manner for the game.

[magnetaress]

The should make a server were u can only be wizards warriors and rogues

[cd288]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry you haven't played the game apparently lol. I have never seen a low level group have trouble clearing content. Most people aren't Min/Maxing their XP groups. If they were, they wouldn't play in public groups.

How the majority of players play on P99 matters. Just because something is better, doesn't mean the P99 player base takes advantage of it.

The problem with having 6 mages in a group is everybody is leveling a mage lol, and most people don't want to level a mage.

You could also contribute to the thread, instead of just making yourself look like an asshole lol. Nobody cares about your hot take on what you think of my posts.

Ok man go do a group without any DPS, it will be SUPER fun and efficient. So no pet classes, no charming pets allowed either. No Rogues, no Monks.

Just like a Paladin, a healer, and like an enchanter (only class allowed to DPS is the Paladin). See how that goes. Yeah DPS is irrelevant in this game. Super big brain stuff bro.