Seal Team removes ourselves from all player agreements

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ST has a valid point though they haven't articulated it well. The point being that other guilds should have to compete for mobs and not have them handed down by the staff.

The issue is that the raid rules heavily favor megazerg guilds under the guise of 'fairness' and due to outsized influence. So in the end you'll always have a #1 guild that takes almost everything. This doesn't result in a very competitive or exciting raid scene. And it tends to breed more toxicity when a guild gets such a monopoly hold.

You're right. Creating a mega-zerg guild, poaching members from other guilds with pixel packages, and having a disproportionate amount of people that can tie themselves to a batphone and log on 24/7 is not competition... it's like Amazon shutting local retailers out of business while goading them to compete with them.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right. Creating a mega-zerg guild, poaching members from other guilds with pixel packages, and having a disproportionate amount of people that can tie themselves to a batphone and log on 24/7 is not competition... it's like Amazon shutting local retailers out of business while goading them to compete with them.

first, i believe you are refering to kingdom about the poaching. as kingdom has been warned multiple times to stop poaching. as far as i know ST has a no recruitment policy, they do not recruit, people come to them.

second, as far as keeping a roster that can answer the batphone 24/7, welcome to hardcore raiding in classic EQ. fucks sake. get with it.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Phaezed-Reality [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

first, i believe you are refering to kingdom about the poaching. as kingdom has been warned multiple times to stop poaching. as far as i know ST has a no recruitment policy, they do not recruit, people come to them.

second, as far as keeping a roster that can answer the batphone 24/7, welcome to hardcore raiding in classic EQ. fucks sake. get with it.

the reference is to Aftermath on Blue, but the fact it applies in your mind to Green guilds speaks to Nexii's excellent larger point that it isn't anything about the constitution of any one p99 guild that creates this situation, it's everquest itself and what the staff decides to enforce and not enforce. top eq guilds poach because consolidating the top players in one guild works, for the top players.

[Cawin]

Originally Posted by Phaezed-Reality [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

first, i believe you are refering to kingdom about the poaching. as kingdom has been warned multiple times to stop poaching. as far as i know ST has a no recruitment policy, they do not recruit, people come to them.

More make-believe. ST aggressively recruited many of our top members (and leadership!) with all sorts of promises. Some followed and many of them are still listed as "Trial Members" I also remember the day Phatez came up to Sky during our slot too and spam recruited in open chats for hours to entice members to come over Kunark. We all had a good laugh.

[Bach]

Originally Posted by Phaezed-Reality [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

first, i believe you are refering to kingdom about the poaching. as kingdom has been warned multiple times to stop poaching. as far as i know ST has a no recruitment policy, they do not recruit, people come to them.

second, as far as keeping a roster that can answer the batphone 24/7, welcome to hardcore raiding in classic EQ. fucks sake. get with it.

Yet i have seen numerous screenshot of phatez or smash sending poaching tels, and then there s that time where he litteraly came to a kingdom raid in sky to advertise pre kunark recruitment.

You're either ignorant or full of it.

[Nirgon]

All those nerfed clickies and things they cried about as the reason they couldn't win. Then they didn't even try to show up for Trak and demanded freebies, won exactly zero to date

Maybe it's not clickies or the mean RP-lite guild. (Huge resounding DUH)

[Scalem]

I don’t know why it’s so hard to just create a rule that says “when X raid mob spawns guilds have Y minutes to prepare. After Y minutes happens Z number of racers compete for FTE.” Sure you still have to sock a little but it puts most guilds on an even field to compete for actual FTE instead of who can ever sit here the longest wins competitions that currently exist on green.

[mattydef]

Originally Posted by Scalem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t know why it’s so hard to just create a rule that says “when X raid mob spawns guilds have Y minutes to prepare. After Y minutes happens Z number of racers compete for FTE.” Sure you still have to sock a little but it puts most guilds on an even field to compete for actual FTE instead of who can ever sit here the longest wins competitions that currently exist on green.

I also don't know why something like this has never been put in place. It literally satisfies everyone, from the hardcore competitors that want to win against other guilds and the more casual that don't have the time to sit and stare at the screen for hours upon hours.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by mattydef [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also don't know why something like this has never been put in place. It literally satisfies everyone, from the hardcore competitors that want to win against other guilds and the more casual that don't have the time to sit and stare at the screen for hours upon hours.

I agree. I feel like this is most fair and reasonable system that satisfies everyone.

For the record, my favorite way to raid p99 was the pull era. I just really think fte lockouts is the smart answer here.

And since this is our community, if this solution ends up making things worse than they are now (Which, imo, is impossible for that to happen) .... you can always just change it back after a month..

[billcrystals]

Did Ramal really just try and say that "Seal Team does not recruit"? I know it's an obvious troll because that's literally all this guy does, but lol.