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Old 07-20-2016, 02:44 PM
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there is no biological basis for race
Right, because we can't perform cluster analysis on genomes yet. And the human genome clusters don't correspond to self-identified ethnicities at all. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Science does support the existence of genetic differences between races, both differences expressed in human peoples' phenotypes (it's possible to give an accurate phenotypic reconstruction of features we often label as racial markers from DNA samples, in addition to geographic ancestry) and in non-coded DNA e.g. significantly higher % of Neanderthal DNA in Europeans.
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^pseudoscientific nonsense
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Old 07-20-2016, 03:05 PM
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but i'll bite .. define race. then define *a* race.

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Old 07-20-2016, 03:09 PM
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.. i mean .. *stifled guffaw* .. if there is such a thing as .. *probing eye contact* .. "racial markers" .. *gigglish outburst* .. then surely you can easily define race .. *knowing smile* ..
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.. i mean .. *stifled guffaw* .. if there is such a thing as .. *probing eye contact* .. "racial markers" .. *gigglish outburst* .. then surely you can easily define race .. *knowing smile* ..
What part of

"In 2005, the official view of the International Committee of the Red Cross was "The potential to target a particular ethnic group with a biological agent is probably not far off. These scenarios are not the product of the ICRC's imagination but have either occurred or been identified by countless independent and governmental experts."[5]

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Old 07-20-2016, 03:43 PM
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significantly higher % of Neanderthal DNA in Europeans.
if this is true doesn't it make white people the more sub-human race?

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Old 07-20-2016, 03:48 PM
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The other Christian said Jesus was a pacifist. I don't agree with him. But that's what a pacifist would do if someone was being attacked.

So I agree that they probably carried swords. And your claim about Muslims infiltrating churches is hilarious. We're not even allowed to step foot in polytheist temples.
And He said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.
Not just an opinion, they actually did carry swords (the gun of the day), but for the apostles not until the end of his earthly ministry.
And you misunderstood, I said liberals, not muslims.

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God is your God too, even if you pray to Jesus instead. And I pray to God while facing the Dome of the Rock three times a day, God willing, because that's the real temple. The cube in Mecca is a pagan, unknown to the sectarians who do silly man made rituals like circling it or kissing the stone.
3 times a day, Yeshua (Jesus in the English) instructs to pray all day, always, constantly. There is no formula, no repetitive words, no precise posture, just awareness, and to not make a spectacle of it as if to show off, those are the instructions. Pray is an old word, it means to communicate with someone, or to talk, not an incantation to be repeated over and over or whatnot.

How can you say the same God there? If you read closely, I clearly wrote Yeshua GOD. He called himself the one and only GOD, the great "I AM" (YHWH) and the Jews tried to kill him for blasphemy on the spot for claiming that. There is only one creator, but people make their own gods, be it a false god, but their god nontheless. This is why Yeshua told some of the Jews that they are of their father the Devil. Islam teaches that Yeshua was just a man, a prophet and teacher a different Yeshua all together. But those are not Yeshua's claims, he clearly taught that he himself is God. So no, the god of Islam is not the Same as the Christian God, by far.

Convert or die, this is what Islam does, for their god, or to make the rest allowed to live as second-class citizens. They do this by war, by invasion, even by trickery. That is not the same God. The God of Christianity simply offers a choice, not a sword, but the offer in and of grace. Swords are for defending yourself, not conquest by a religion, or in the case of Islam an ideology. And thus from what I just wrote, it is apparent Islam and Christianity is not nor can ever be compatible on any level.
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Maybe your interpretation of Islam is more accurate and less harmful then the majority of Muslims. However, when half of self-identifying Muslims in a country say suicide bombings are justifiable, that is empirically a problem demographic.
I think you're reasonable based on what you say and how you say it. But where did you get that statistic? There might be a sect or members within it that support suicide bombing, but actual Muslims condemn that because the Qur'an clearly forbids it and says that anyone who does it goes to hell:

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
4:29 O you who believe, do not consume your money between you unjustly, unless it is through a trade which is mutually agreed by you. And do not kill yourselves; God is Merciful towards you.

4:30 And whoever does so out of animosity and transgression, We will cast him to a Fire; and this for God is very easy.
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Old 07-20-2016, 04:12 PM
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since there is no biological basis for race, that would be a neat trick.
Race is a social construct.

But all White People are racist unless they voted for Obama.
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