Why do people seem to hate luclin so much?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last: I DO believe that Luclin killed classic EQ. SoE DID cater to the whiners. At the same time, they were trying to evolve with the times....I think PoP killed it for me due to several factors but mainly for turning the Mage Epic pet in to a worthless item for what was the most important thing a Mage could have in game.

In comparison, it would be the same as taking IC away from wizards in the Kunark time frame of EQ.

When you take away bread and butter that wasn't easy to obtain in the first place, it turns stuff stupid.

How do you think SoE could have handled the epic pet problem better?

Perhaps a focus item that only worked on the epic pet, then a no drop scroll 'mega pet' from each of the four elemental planes finally followed by a ridiculously OP 'time elemental' pet that could drop from quarm?

[leftharted]

I mained a Cleric from kunark-LDoN(ish) era.. forgot when exactly I fell off the horse..

but as a cleric, I absolutely LOVED the horses. don't care what anyone thinks. Having the meditate mana regen while casting was epic; and I was a boss and dropping off that horse and canceling a CH when needed. If I recall correctly the top speed horse was just under Bard travel; but still about double SoW. I imagine the horses were very kind to other casters as well; not so much melee.

I agree with everyone that the luclin main hub kinda broke other features. I concur that the ports really destroyed the Vastness of norrath. I personally don't want luclin; but I want the horses, and I would love to just have the bazaar feature.

Im not sure how impossible it would be; but what about putting in the bazaar 'code' so that we can setup AFK bazaar toons in the EC tunnel?? the tunnel is already littered with AFK people lining the walls; what if the tunnel was the bazaar zone, and you could setup your AFK /bazaar in the tunnel?

I love the EC tunnel, and the need to travel to and from it; but I would HATE having to actually stand there and spam my wares in auction every 2min.... boring as hell. And as others have stated, not much real social interaction anyways.

Also, on the point of personable 'haggling' ... you can still /auction to buy something at gouged prices with the bazaar in place, and hope to find an idiot thatll take your price. And, their was plenty of price gouging in the bazaar anyways... my Brother (as an enc) would lowball all the listed jewelry, putting out the other enchanters; but he made BANK. business is business; was totally fair in my eyes. Same with Shaman PoTs.


just my 2cp.

[Credge]

I've never really liked auction houses in MMO's. It removed the focus from items and puts it on currency that never really has any value. Every MMO needs money sinks to remove currency from the game, and EQ's is primarily the food system.

AH's work in some MMO's. Those games have tons of ways to remove currency from the game. EQ? Not so much.

To put it in to perspective, when I can kill a single monster and it drops enough currency to last me a week of play time, there's not enough currency being removed from the game.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Credge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've never really liked auction houses in MMO's. It removed the focus from items and puts it on currency that never really has any value. Every MMO needs money sinks to remove currency from the game, and EQ's is primarily the food system.

AH's work in some MMO's. Those games have tons of ways to remove currency from the game. EQ? Not so much.

To put it in to perspective, when I can kill a single monster and it drops enough currency to last me a week of play time, there's not enough currency being removed from the game.

Wait so how does that change with or without the bazaar?

[Jimjam]

I don't know, he talks about auction houses and then plat sinks....

I'm guessing he wants a % based tax implemented to the bazaar to nom nom spare p p!!

[Swish]

<IRS> should be a new guild patrolling tunnel ensuring a duty is paid on every purchase.

[Credge]

I'm saying there aren't enough ways that EQ removes currency for an auction house to work without it causing super inflation. Right now we see people barter, and it's this bartering that keeps items relatively in check.

We saw super inflation in EQ very fast after Luclin came out. I don't recall there being any great money sinks in Luclin either. Since I quit during Luclin I don't know what Sony did to fix this.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Cats on the moon did not sit well with some from what I have read here.

I always wonder if they'd have been okay with Cats from inside the earth. Or Cats from Kerra Isle.

Just seems like a dumb beef over some of the genuine problems already covered ad nauseum here.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Credge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't recall there being any great money sinks in Luclin either.

BiS purchasable mounts were 104kPP.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BiS purchasable mounts were 104kPP.

oh, zing!