Catherins attempt at lawyering

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a game of force. Not much more to it. A little bit of politics now and drama. But mostly force.

It shouldn't be that way in a free to play emulated version of a 15 year old game, especially after they've had unrestricted access to it for over 3 years now. Maybe I missed the memo though were Rogean detailed his plan to develop vanilla EQ raiding but only for people that could devote ungodly amounts of time to it.

Seems to me recent GM interaction doesn't support that theory though.

[Locust]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It shouldn't be that way in a free to play emulated version of a 15 year old game, especially after they've had unrestricted access to it for over 3 years now. Maybe I missed the memo though were Rogean detailed his plan to develop vanilla EQ raiding but only for people that could devote ungodly amounts of time to it.

Seems to me recent GM interaction doesn't support that theory though.

all you gotta do is join TMO (or maybe IB , not sure who's winning atm)

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Take a step back and realize that your position which is essentially "might is right" is unacceptable in virtually any other social interaction.

TMO is a bully that won't share

Really? Do you live in this world? Take a step back and look at what really happens in today's world.

Take one more step back again and realize this is an EQ EMU not the real world. Tell me in what society does every person have equal access to every good?

[Duckwalk]

And to clarify just for fun...

They bully by being more willing to spend days staring a walls and waking up at absurd hours.

They won't share pixels in a free to play 15 year old emulator.

Who the fuck would want to "earn" that?

[Cecily]

Again, your argument held water a year ago. Have you even played P99 since January?

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, your argument held water a year ago. Have you even played P99 since January?

I had assumed we were all discussing setting a Class R rotation in VP too as its been pretty well established that TMO are selfish children that can't share content after 3+ years of dominating it and have to be forced to let others experience it.

Altari has established that not *every single* one of their raiders is fully VP equipped so obviously he has no intention of spreading the pixel love.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had assumed we were all discussing setting a Class R rotation in VP too as its been pretty well established that TMO are selfish children that can't share content after 3+ years of dominating it and have to be forced to let others experience it.

Altari has established that not *every single* one of their raiders is fully VP equipped so obviously he has no intention of spreading the pixel love.

TMO, believe it or not, has no say whether or not Class R kills mobs in VP. The staff has maintained that they consider VP a Class C privilege and an incentive for other guilds to move to Class C. We're obviously fine with that, but don't say that we have any iron grip on raid content any more. It simply isn't true.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO, believe it or not, has no say whether or not Class R kills mobs in VP. The staff has maintained that they consider VP a Class C privilege and an incentive for other guilds to move to Class C. We're obviously fine with that, but don't say that we have any iron grip on raid content any more. It simply isn't true.

It's only not true because you been forced into sharing by GM imposed ruleset. However, that same rule set that keep your from gobbling up all the lower tier raid content also discourages class r guilds from attempting class c content as there is no mechanism to allow them to revert to class r status should they fail.

A better system would be to have all content FFA for a time period after it is introduced and then have it all revert to a rotation past a certain point.

TMO/IB could fight over it for the first year then it would enter a rotation for everyone to experience.

VP being over 3 years old and basically only being farmed by the same small minority is dumb.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's only not true because you been forced into sharing by GM imposed ruleset. However, that same rule set that keep your from gobbling up all the lower tier raid content also discourages class r guilds from attempting class c content as there is no mechanism to allow them to revert to class r status should they fail.

A better system would be to have all content FFA for a time period after it is introduced and then have it all revert to a rotation past a certain point.

TMO/IB could fight over it for the first year then it would enter a rotation for everyone to experience.

VP being over 3 years old and basically only being farmed by the same small minority is dumb.

False. The only thing that really kept more guilds from competing before was the very long variance windows. Also the sim repops helped. The Class C/R/FFA cycle helps, but honestly the things that made the biggest difference for guilds killing more than they did before was the shortening of windows and the repops.

Sure the cycles have supplied an average of about 3 to 4 mobs a week to other guilds, but BDA and Taken were getting 1 or 2 a week before the changes at times. Not consistently all the time, but they had success at times for the mobs they competed for. If the windows were 16 hours then they could have focused efforts on more than 1 mob a week. If Sim repops happened then they would have gotten more kills being prepared for them. They also wouldn't have the restriction of going to a certain class and being locked into a rotation and could kill any mob on a repop if that was in place before.

[Uuruk]

As much as i want to be wrong this server is going to be a absolute clusterfuck once velious comes out.