NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I couldn't find a stream for the trans team I previously linked.

But I have no idea how to stream soccer.

I remember I was into women’s tennis when Serena and sis (Venus?) hit the scene

I remember people saying their serves were blistering fast. I remember thinking “that musculature is borderline unfair! Are they serving as hard as the best men?!” And then I looked it up and…nope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Botten]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd like to submit some legal evidence here. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suspect he is trying to complain about this

Age restriction lifted for gender-affirming surgery in new international guidelines

Only he has nothing to complain about as seen further in the article:

“Lifting the age restriction will greatly increase access to care for transgender adolescents, but will also result in the need for parental consent for surgeries before doctors would likely perform them,” said Zamantakis, a postdoctoral fellow at Northwestern, who has researched trans youth and resilience. “Additionally, changes in age restriction are not likely to change much in practice in states like Alabama, Arkansas, Texas and Arizona, where gender-affirming care for youth is currently banned.”

Again just a ploy to re-energize the Christian base of the already resulting low output party.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suspect he is trying to complain about this

Age restriction lifted for gender-affirming surgery in new international guidelines

Only he has nothing to complain about as seen further in the article:



Again just a ploy to re-energize the Christian base of the already resulting low output party.

Did you read your own link?

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you read your own link?

I read and quoted the parts that pertained to the argument you answered in less than 10 minutes of me posting it. What is your gripe?

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I read and quoted the parts that pertained to the argument you answered in less than 10 minutes of me posting it. What is your gripe?

You didn't quote the most important paragraph:

The recommendation of requiring documentation of persistent gender incongruence is meant to prevent regret. However, it's important to ask who ultimately has the authority to determine whether individuals have the right to make decisions about their bodily autonomy that they may or may not regret? Cisgender women undergo breast augmentation regularly, which is not an entirely reversible procedure, yet they are not required to have proof of documented incongruence. It is assumed that if they regret the surgery, they will learn to cope with the regret or will have an additional surgery. Transgender individuals also deserve the right to bodily autonomy and ultimately to regret the decisions they make if they later do not align with how they experience themselves.

They are telling you (within your own link) that the ultimate goal is 'gender affirming care' without parental consent

There is no distinction made of the 'Individual's' age and if they regret castrating themselves tough shit

The reality is these procedures are very expensive and The Government is paying for many of them. Planned Parenthood is one of the largest providers of these insane Frankenstein Experiments. $$$$ Grift $$$$

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't quote the most important paragraph:



They are telling you (within your own link) that the ultimate goal is 'gender affirming care' without parental consent

There is no distinction made of the 'Individual's' age and if they regret castrating themselves tough shit

The reality is these procedures are very expensive and The Government is paying for many of them. Planned Parenthood is one of the largest providers of these insane Frankenstein Experiments. $$$$ Grift $$$$

That's fine but I assume they don't cut the tits off transwomen .

[unsunghero]

Cisgender women undergo breast augmentation regularly

I like the person saying this finally pushing personal responsibility like suffering regret for one’s choices. Personal responsibility is not a strategy Dems like to push, it doesn’t tend to win elections like blaming oppressors does

But

I think there is one distinct detail missing here. This sounds like it is referring to adults making the decision for breast enlargement (and bravo for that). I coulda swore teens getting breast enlargement are not happening nearly as regularly as adults, and also requires a parent consent

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't quote the most important paragraph:



They are telling you (within your own link) that the ultimate goal is 'gender affirming care' without parental consent

There is no distinction made of the 'Individual's' age and if they regret castrating themselves tough shit

The reality is these procedures are very expensive and The Government is paying for many of them. Planned Parenthood is one of the largest providers of these insane Frankenstein Experiments. $$$$ Grift $$$$

I read that it is important to ask who ultimately has authority over the autonomy?

It doesn’t say the minor does and further more it states “Lifting the age restriction will greatly increase access to care for transgender adolescents, but will also result in the need for parental consent for surgeries before doctors would likely perform them”

Regretting surgical breast removal or breast implants by minor isn’t reflecting on the issue it needs parental consent.

You have what you want but your Christian base baaaaaa continues on command.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I read that it is important to ask who ultimately has authority over the autonomy?

It doesn’t say the minor does and further more it states “Lifting the age restriction will greatly increase access to care for transgender adolescents, but will also result in the need for parental consent for surgeries before doctors would likely perform them”

Regretting surgical breast removal or breast implants by minor isnÂ’t reflecting on the issue it needs parental consent.

You have what you want but your Christian base baaaaaa continues on command.

It shouldn’t even be an argument

The fight against time here is really about passability. The only group that should have a leg to stand on there are trans women, since they are the ones where puberty can wreck their future passability. And I’m no expert on trans psychology, but it seems passability seems important to them, even if they don’t say that outright. They seem to have a goal as becoming as much like “cis” women as possible. And why wouldn’t they?

But a mastectomy at 16 or one at 18 really makes no difference, the result will be the same. So unless the kid is really going to manipulate the system with the “if I don’t get my way on this I’ll kill myself” (this is just the cynic in me who knows when he is being manipulated and when he’s not, and it’s often I am), doctors should tell them to wait until they are an adult

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I read that it is important to ask who ultimately has authority over the autonomy?

It doesn’t say the minor does and further more it states “Lifting the age restriction will greatly increase access to care for transgender adolescents, but will also result in the need for parental consent for surgeries before doctors would likely perform them”

Regretting surgical breast removal or breast implants by minor isn’t reflecting on the issue it needs parental consent.

You have what you want but your Christian base baaaaaa continues on command.

You're clearly not educated on this issue

The Left is already sneaking in these procedures in Abortion Amendments to their state constitutions (See Michigan)

They make no distinction on the individual's age. This is not a revelation. When it comes to these issues, The Left does not make a distinction. It's an incremental push further down the rabbit hole of depravity. 10 Years ago it was 'They just want to get married. It's not hurting you."

Now they are stuffing abortion bills with Government funded transgender medical procedures for minors (handled by Planned Parenthood of course) without parental consent

Are you ok with that?