Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not about needing things, it's about you not realizing how good having certain options is because you don't play with those options. The first clue this was happening was when you said having in-group ports isn't a big deal. Anyone who plays with in-group ports being readily available instantly knows how misguided this take is. It enables chasing timed repops across Norrath instead of sitting at the same camp grinding mobs.

Ports aren't a big deal on these servers. Have you ever been in a position where you couldn't find a porter? I haven't. We aren't talking about a fresh server where there are no dial-a-port characters yet.

[fortior]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ports aren't a big deal on these servers. Have you ever been in a position where you couldn't find a porter? I haven't. We aren't talking about a fresh server where there are no dial-a-port characters yet.

Yeah this is what I mean, no creativity. You only see ports as services to get from one druid ring/wizard spire to the other. You're basically playing EQ on the most basic of basic levels, which is why you think a very boring class with a very limited utility toolbox is a good addition to a group which is already filled to the gills with survivability and dps. Basically you'll never be in a truly great group and you'll spend your entire P99 career root rotting/face tanking mobs that slowly get dotted down.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ports aren't a big deal on these servers. Have you ever been in a position where you couldn't find a porter? I haven't.

The above Quote could simply suggest that you do not port as often as other posters here while grouping, which could be true for a variety of reasons such as: maybe you play less often than posters who find more value in in-group porters, maybe you group up less often, maybe you tackle comparatively fewer camps in a given play-period (or in general) than other posters here. Maybe a combination of all of these things.

Regardless of your own personal anecdotal history of port frequency and availability, being in a position where you have to find and then wait for a porter is - inarguably - less efficient than having a porter in your group, if your goal is to be ported. When considering which 4 person all caster/priest group is the "best" this is a factor that merits consideration. Especially considering my following point:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We aren't talking about a fresh server where there are no dial-a-port characters yet.

The majority of posters in this thread are aligned in that the capabilities of the FOUR PERSON group should be considered based on the capabilities of the classes composing said hypothetical FOUR PERSON group - WITHOUT additional out-of-group players (DAP) or additional "pocket" toons involved - as the ONLY specification that the OP DID provide is "best 4 person all caster/priest group", and speaking strictly mathematically, 4 =/= 5 (or any other # higher than 4).

[fortior]

Well there's a period on the server where shamans are fantastic, but that window pretty much closes permanently once velious releases. Massive stats on items, unslowable mobs, and charm doesn't get reeled in until later.

DSM sounds like someone who has been stuck with the very limited toolbox of a shaman for a long time, and he probably just doesn't even know about the crazy things other classes can do (together). Like there's no way this dude knows about coth pulling.

[Gloomlord]

He should provide one as soon as you provide one where a charm group is perfectly fine with you doing some moronic root rotting.

Seems fair, right?

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He should provide one as soon as you provide one where a charm group is perfectly fine with you doing some moronic root rotting.

Seems fair, right?

Not gonna happen. I’d boot a shaman trying to do this.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not gonna happen. I’d boot a shaman trying to do this.

Your personal preference is irrelevant to what a group can objectively do. Limiting yourself on strategies is the fault of the player, not the class or composition.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not gonna happen. I’d boot a shaman trying to do this.

I mean, anyone with a brain would.

If you're in Sebilis, for example: what mobs are you going to root rot that are worth root rotting anyway in a 2 charm group? As soon a one root breaks, the Shaman is wasting time, and if another breaks he won't be getting bailed from the Enchanters who can't mesmerise dotted targets.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, anyone with a brain would.

If you're in Sebilis, for example: what mobs are you going to root rot that are worth root rotting anyway in a 2 charm group? As soon a one root breaks, the Shaman is wasting time, and if another breaks he won't be getting bailed from the Enchanters who can't mesmerise dotted targets.

Most mobs in Seb aren't breaking root like crazy. You would know this if you have fought there.

If you are XPing, you are killing trash. If you are camping Fungi King, that is your primary objective. Pulling mobs for XP is just a bonus, not something you are doing at a breakneck pace.

[Vivitron]

I would also like to see this 4 man summoned-pet tanked 6 neck attempt.