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[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Fat King has everyone stunned speechless with his incompetency. If you want a non-troll answer, there you go bud. Hope that helps fill you in.

Do you see any Golf Course Country Club Foodbar Diet clan members in this thread anymore? Exactly. What is there to discuss? He is bungling at politics. He is literally failing to play the game. He is losing the game because of his lack of fundamental undestanding of politics.

Hows that tax reform bill looking ??? Reagan what??

REAGAN WHAT???????????

Lol, GOP wasn't going to sign the parties deathknell with that tax bill. Hell, that healthcare bill has done a lot of damage already.

[Trungep99]

Originally Posted by Rader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, let's discuss, once all the Obama scandals have had a thorough vetting. Until then, you can stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

Obama is out of office. He is only a distraction for you from something that his opposition is having trouble covering up

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Trungep99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obama is out of office. He is only a distraction for you from something that his opposition is having trouble covering up

They also did this when Obama was in office. I don't think Trump has been given much more chance to implement his ideas than Obama was. That being said, in this case I'm not as sad about it. From what I've seen -- Trump is just another ally of the 1%. Trump's dream is that his kids get a more outrageously lavish lifestyle than he already has.

People like Trump are your enemy. They want to live an aristocratic America where people like him use their private jet to travel to their luxury hotels around the world. You know, so they can "work" (spend 55 mins chatting 5 mins of telling people what to do).

They envision an America where an upper middle class of administrators do all the work of extracting resources and making everything run on schedule for them. In return they get a mediocre lifestyle they are told makes them "rich." They encourage this class of Uncle Toms to look down on regular service and construction workers. They want everyone to strive to be this administrative class out of sheer survival instinct.

But other than that, he's a lot like Obama.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They also did this when Obama was in office. I don't think Trump has been given much more chance to implement his ideas than Obama was. That being said, in this case I'm not as sad about it. From what I've seen -- Trump is just another ally of the 1%. Trump's dream is that his kids get a more outrageously lavish lifestyle than he already has.

People like Trump are your enemy. They want to live an aristocratic America where people like him use their private jet to travel to their luxury hotels around the world. You know, so they can "work" (spend 55 mins chatting 5 mins of telling people what to do).

They envision an America where an upper middle class of administrators do all the work of extracting resources and making everything run on schedule for them. In return they get a mediocre lifestyle they are told makes them "rich." They encourage this class of Uncle Toms to look down on regular service and construction workers. They want everyone to strive to be this administrative class out of sheer survival instinct.

But other than that, he's a lot like Obama.

strongly STRONGLY approve of using 'uncle toms' as an economic term

this probably means you shouldn't do that

[Rader]

Originally Posted by Trungep99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obama is out of office. He is only a distraction for you from something that his opposition is having trouble covering up

And you people were blubbering about Bush seven years after he was out of office.

[FatMice]

Impeach.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tell him its not as easy as it seems, the top farmers already have huge farms with huge farming chipsets state-of-the-art computer farms. like compare what your brother could do to farm bitcoins to marijauna farming. Your brother would be growing a few plants in his house while the real bitcoin farmers are using a room full of computers and they have been doing this since bitcoin came out...some even have warehouses...

hope that helps. i looked into it. its a big investment just to compete against the top farmers and the headstart the farmers have is very very big. im not saying its not a cool hobby. just tell him its not the secret overnight success he thinks it is....if he gets into it, it should just be considered a fun cool hobby, nothing more. Like any hobby, it costs more money the more serious you take the hobby. The more money you invest into your farming operation the more bitcoins...but again, the farmers have a large advantage over a small operation for reasons i dont care to get into here. you can find articles describing how it works. at least if he understands how the farming works, he might be able to make an informed decision.

Originally Posted by maskedmelonpai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it all come down to how much computing power is presently devoted to mining. at the current disco bounty, you need to furnish .002% of the total processing power to gross around $50/hr and that is gross, not net.

from there you have to deduct power and equipment costs. suppose there currently are a million registered mining units, you'd need 20 average powered boxes at an initial investment of $1k/box =$20k.

then from here you gotta consider electric costs. assuming each machine eat 1kw/hr, you gonna consume 14,400kwhr per month. if you lucky enough to live in a energy rich place liek the pnw, then you can figure $.11/kwhr, for a monthly electric bill increase of $1,584.

you also gotta think about how the hell you actually gonna power all those in a residential environment without tripping breakers. and how long the machines gonna last before they burn out? of course, if they working 24hr a day that $50/hr look a lot better than a normal 9to5, but they gonna burn out a lot sooner and they not all gonna be up all the time because you gotta perform maintenance and stuff. you gonna have fans die, etc.

bitcoin also half they disco bounty liek every 4 years, so your revenues gonna drop accordingly unless you furnish a larger share of the computing power. you share of computing power is gonna go down anyway though whenever new miners come online and the currency will necessarily devalue as more is issued. all the above assume the exchange rate hold at $1800/bc and no new miners to chip away at your contribution to the network.

he's approaching it as an investor, and encouraging me to begin mining altcoins. he has invested in a little bitcoin and "thousands of altcoins" of several types. The mining stuff is good to know and confirms my previous impression.

I'm really concerned he will ruin his finances buying (what I consider) internet fun bucks/amusement park tokens and looking for arguments to dissuade him.

[Pokesan]

the best angle i've come up with so far is asking him if he plans to commit tax fraud

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Rader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And you people were blubbering about Bush seven years after he was out of office.

that's because we are STILL in a war that was started with lies to impress his daddy.

Oh are you STILL getting healthcare and that makes you mad? gimi a break. False equivalency AGAIN from the same poster.

[Ahldagor]

Another bait and switch? President Trump extends Odumbasses Iran deal.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39950827