So that's it for the election. - Page 33

Autumnbow · #1 10-19-2012, 02:24 PM

I'm glad Obama is going to win, if only because 4 more years of his healthcare plan being in action will (hopefully) make it so ingrained in the country as to make it nearly impossible to kill.

It really is time for the younger people in this country to step up and force a third party to be taken seriously, though.

Diggles · #2 10-19-2012, 03:37 PM

ad hominem

that's cool, i learned about that in my communications class too

Lucky · #3 10-19-2012, 05:30 PM

If the United States loses its role as the world reserve currency we will become a 3rd world nation like Mexico or Nigeria. And you know what, those people at least know why they're slaves, you people are so stupid, and so focused on crap, youll still be talking about Lindsay Lohan when you're a homeless person on the streets.

Alarti0001 · #4 10-19-2012, 05:59 PM

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If the United States loses its role as the world reserve currency we will become a 3rd world nation like Mexico or Nigeria. And you know what, those people at least know why they're slaves, you people are so stupid, and so focused on crap, youll still be talking about Lindsay Lohan when you're a homeless person on the streets.

Back-up this claim or be labled a moron.

Lucky · #5 10-19-2012, 06:29 PM

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Ryba · #6 10-19-2012, 06:38 PM

Obama turned out to be just another politician. He overpromised and underdelivered...just like everyone else. So why all the hatred?

A president with an uncooperative congress is not on his own capable of getting the U.S. into the imbroglio it's in. It really doesn't take much intelligence to notice that none of the problems we face--recession/unemployment, war/security, healthcare--are best described on a trend line that is not book-ended in convenient 4-year chunks that correspond with the term of your least-favorite president. Obama, like Bush, presides at the juncture of multiple clusterfucks. How can you not see that?

It really makes you question what is fueling the high-octane vitriol leveled at Obama. Did you think presidents prevent recessions on their own? How do you muster such a passionate dislike for a guy that is at worst, lame, at best, not shitting the bed like W?

If you haven't read this, you should. If your brain is not clogged with poo and bias, it should make you pause before you criticize someone with vastly more world knowledge than you, i.e. the POTUS. Short read, give it a shot.

http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/02/daniel-ellsberg-limitations-knowledge

Ryba · #7 10-19-2012, 06:40 PM

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It really doesn't take much intelligence to notice that none of the problems we face--recession/unemployment, war/security, healthcare--are best described on a trend line that is not book-ended in convenient 4-year chunks that correspond with the term of your least-favorite president.

Sorry for the double negative in an already confusing sentence.

Lucky · #8 10-19-2012, 06:41 PM

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Obama turned out to be just another politician. He overpromised and underdelivered...just like everyone else. So why all the hatred?

It really makes you question what is fueling the high-octane vitriol leveled at Obama. Did you think presidents prevent recessions on their own? How do you muster such a passionate dislike for a guy that is at worst, lame, at best, not shitting the bed like W?

You can argue that he isn't shitting the bed like W (I'd sa he is), but overall he's just smearing W's shit around after he said he would clean it up.

Splorf22 · #9 10-20-2012, 02:10 AM

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Well Lucky is throwing out hyperbole but, lets look at some facts.

Greece: 135% debt to GDP, 15%+ interest rate on bonds
USA: 100% debt to GDP, 3% interest rate on bonds, 10% of GDP deficit per year

The main reason that the US pays way less (12% less) interest is that the dollar is the reserve currency of the world. Suppose the US had to pay 15% a year on its debt just like Greece. 16 trillion * 15% = 2.25 trillion dollars. That is greater roughly equivalent to the entire Federal budget. If taxes were doubled to account for it, the resulting destruction of productivity would bring the economy to a grinding halt. There is no legitimate way to clear this up. The US would have to either default or go through a hyperinflationary episode. Either way would involve massive, massive economic pain.

P.S. I love the analogy about Bush taking a giant dump in the White House and then Obama smearing it all over the walls. It perfectly encapsulates how I feel about our two presidents.

Tarathiel · #10 10-20-2012, 02:27 AM

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P.S. I love the analogy about Bush taking a giant dump in the White House and then Obama smearing it all over the walls. It perfectly encapsulates how I feel about our two presidents.

paint the white house BROWN