Ragefire Agreement/Rotation - Page 33

falkun · #**321** 02-21-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have an opportunity to show your willingness to rotate the mob this week without TMO/IB's leaders to be involved...

If we don't involve them their members will go back to clicking air like they did prior to the original agreement (after their suspensions are up).

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Originally Posted by Aata [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you say 'leaders' hope you're not just talking about 3 guilds?

Please find a post where coldblooded ever mentions excluding guilds outside tmo/ib/vd. now do the same for tmo/ib leadership. Please let me know what you find.

YendorLootmonkey · #**322** 02-21-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm done trying to explain the situation. We left the glare lord arch past the graveyard up and a few mobs near boogey house up. There should have been no reason for any sort of spotter.

Bottom line is VD benefitted from a raid banned guild training Draco on our entering raid force. I don't understand how you can defend this with a straight face.

Because we had no idea what IB was doing in the zone nor did we care. We had no idea what was on the other side of the portal. As a raid leader, I am not going to tell my force to cram through the portal until I have a set of eyes on the other side telling me when its safe. I don't even care if we just got done clearing two hours ago. It's not worth the potential wasted time. If you can't understand that, I hope there was a lesson taken from that and incorporated into your future entrances into Fear, especially when there's a raid target on the line. I'm not trying to be an ass, but never assume the portal is clear.

JoeBob · #**323** 02-21-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ElanoraBryght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hopefully the leaders will all be on to talk tonight.

Lets just hope that you aren't "too tired," to talk to them tonight when they reach out to you.

Aata · #**324** 02-21-2012, 01:49 PM

It was just a question, thanks for the reply! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Metallikus · #**325** 02-21-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

me and relapsee gonna hammer this out.

You guys have no fear.

A necro from TMO and an epic'd cleric from IB are going to set things up for you non epic'd clerics.

They've had a lot more time to think about you guys whie they are suspended for the behaviors of sharing and caring about the good of the server.

YendorLootmonkey · #**326** 02-21-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tech, VD could be considered to have already gone in the rotation, put Div - ninik next, and go from there.

It's not hard.

1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 for all guilds involved.

Lazortag · #**327** 02-21-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we don't involve them their members will go back to clicking air like they did prior to the original agreement (after their suspensions are up).

The problem is that, in the interim, this is exactly what you're forcing every other guild to do. The consequence is that guilds whose clerics are unwilling to engage in an asinine clickfest will be bullied out of getting their epic, while those who do take part in the clickfest end up wasting insane amounts of time.

Not hating or anything, I don't think VD are bad people at all, I just think this isn't every well thought out.

Autotune · #**328** 02-21-2012, 01:53 PM

atm, what me and relapsee have is exactly what yendor posted.

I don't see anything wrong with it, other than some guilds will wonder why they aren't first or whatever. which doesn't matter in a 1-1-1-1-1-1 situation.

We are looking for loop holes.

Gmal · #**329** 02-21-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Motec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi.

It is an epic quest.

All of you whinging bitches of clerics and the door knob fellating spastic friends of yours do not and will not get an epic, because it is an epic.

Put in epic commitment, make epic friendships, have epic guildmates or friends, have an epic ability to play long hours and have an epic persona that precludes you from being one of the dull masses lets you earn an epic.

This is not a 'right', its a privilege. Its not a right of passage, the right of passage is months or years of establishing yourself as someone worthy of having 20 people stop everything at 3am to kill a mob in a game for you. Dont have those kind of friends and connections, then you dont get an epic. You get a tainted battleworn morningstar.

The fiery avenger style particle quests were not put in so everyone gets one, they are not class defining, as this stage in the game they are for the best of the best and some scrubs that scrape by. Not for the bleeding heart and ignorant.

Motec,

Although I agree with you a point here, I am also one to understand that not everyone has the ability to put as many hours into this game as we do. Thats understandable as people do have lives and as much as I play this game and am involved in the high end raiding I get that. People have responsibilities and take those much more serious over a 12 year old game. With that said does that make them any less worthy of achieving something nice for themselves in a game? Nope!

I am all for equality with the population and being able to achieve their own personal goals in the game. There is also, as Motec mentions above, a certain amount of commitment that you as a player have to put into achieving that goal in order for you to succeed. Does that mean you need to put in many many hours and put your RL aside in order to achieve that? Depends on how bad you want it.

Velion · #**330** 02-21-2012, 02:01 PM

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atm, what me and relapsee have is exactly what yendor posted.

I don't see anything wrong with it, other than some guilds will wonder why they aren't first or whatever. which doesn't matter in a 1-1-1-1-1-1 situation.

We are looking for loop holes.

I really hope you actually get the backing from your guild to do this or you're going to have some serious PR work to do on this one. It should now be more than obvious that EVERYONE is for a Ragefire rotation like that and with a rotation set up I don't think anyone would have a problem with Ninik taking the next spot. If your guild leadership still continues to screw this up for everyone involved then you have no one to blame but yourselves.